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May 24, 2012 -- 3:03PM, Nuorn wrote:

May 24, 2012 -- 2:01PM, NumberOneTheLarch wrote:

May 24, 2012 -- 1:45PM, Gunthar wrote:

May 24, 2012 -- 1:40PM, abchurch wrote:

What ever happened to D&D being a role- (verses roll-) playing game?

What's with these morons who think good math/design somehow inhibits roleplaying?

What's with these people who think name calling is appropriate or even neccesary when discussing a game where a bunch of dudes or dudettes sit around a table and pretend to be wizards and knights and shiz?

This. ^^


On topic: What would be an example of a well done human race?


o Stat bonus? Obviously not (enough)? Done before.

o Skill bonus? Obviously not (enough)? Done before.

o A write-up with strange and exciting special abilities? Maybe, but wouldn't we lose the non-exotic standard race by that? Of course the classical counter is flexibility, adaptibility in racial powers/feats/multiclassing. Done before.

So how would you do it?            

I'd let them pick an aditional theme/background at level 1...

Thought about this some more, made a decision: I don't like it.

I don't like that humans are tougher, on average, than mountain dwarves and more agile than high elves.  I don't like that humans will always have the highest stats.  In a game where a +1 modifier to attack rolls or save DC's is so valuable--and it's more valuable in this edition than any other, with flat math and few modifiers--racial options better be darn good for me to take them instead.  And if we assume half your stats are even and half odd, the human gets +1 to half their saves and possibly a point of AC and/or some HP.

Right now the human is almost strictly the best combat choice.  A dwarf is good when the poison comes out, as are elves with sleep/charm, and halflings are amazing on a 5-minute workday, but increases to half your ability scores, especially a probable +1 on your primary (and definitely a +1 compared to a race with no bonus) is a gift that keeps on giving.

Another oddity: The "monster" human has stats 11/11/10/9/9/8--worse than average.  So only heroic humans are exceptional?