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The 4E errata policy was overzealous to the point of being histrionic. It's a very very bad policy when someone picks up a book like Adventurer's Vault or the Monster Manual or the Player's Handbook and has to throw it in the trash because a ridiculous errata policy makes much of the content useless. Which is what happens when you have over 150+ pages of errata, most of it being piddling crap like 'fighter only gets wis bonus to damage with this feat once/round' or 'Come And Get It is now a slide instead of a shift'.

I understand that it sucks when everyone and their mother picks up Pit Fighter or Kulkor Arms Master, but the solution to that is NOT to publish errata willy-nilly.  It fractured the fanbase in a huge way and hurt the playability of the game. And 5E D&D or whatever edition that comes in the future needs to never do this again.

I literally stopped buying 4E D&D products and cancelled DDI after the pre-Essentials update. Until then I had almost every 4E book except for things like the Draconomicon. Having the rug pulled up under me for the fifth time in a row was the last friggin' straw. Now that 5th Edition D&D is on its way, I do plan to buy D&D books for 5th Edition as long as it's at least Exalted 2nd Edition Quality. Not a high hurdle to clear with a book that thinks it's okay to put nude underage furries in the core rulebook, but that's another story.

But I'm drawing a line in the sand right now, WotC. If you pull that reckless errata crap again I will drop you as quickly as I did 4E. I do not like throwing away forty dollars just because some TCs get their panties in a bunch about 8 more DPR and nor will most of your lapsed customers.

May 23, 2012 -- 4:56PM, EnglishLanguage wrote:

I liked it, made it feel like they actually cared about game balance instead of throwing half-assed classes and abilities with the expectation we should fix it ourselves.

At least fixing it ourselves would help us to understand what was wrong with it originally.  Some of the errata and updates they did made no sense.  For a while, they said they were going to post explanations about each erra --- err "update" but that stopped after the second or third time.  I guess it just got to be too much for them.

That should have been a hint, guys....

May 23, 2012 -- 9:36PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

I wish WoTC keep Rule Update process around, things always need fixing. But better developpement and stronger Playtesting will reduce the need.

Also, thowing your book in the garbage because  something like 3% of your book content received an update is not so great. Give it to someone who will appreciate it more than you do

No.  Rule Updates are the problem.  Errata should be for fixing mistakes such as typos, not for changing entire powers because "Oops, this was stronger than we thought it would be."

What was the reason for the change to Come and Get it?  I bet some DM somewhere complained that they couldn't do anything about a Fighter that had it and kept the monsters locked down .. you know, doing his *ROLE* as a defender.

May 23, 2012 -- 9:41PM, Undrhil wrote:

May 23, 2012 -- 9:36PM, Plaguescarred wrote:

I wish WoTC keep Rule Update process around, things always need fixing. But better developpement and stronger Playtesting will reduce the need.

Also, thowing your book in the garbage because  something like 3% of your book content received an update is not so great. Give it to someone who will appreciate it more than you do

No.  Rule Updates are the problem.  Errata should be for fixing mistakes such as typos, not for changing entire powers because "Oops, this was stronger than we thought it would be."

What was the reason for the change to Come and Get it?  I bet some DM somewhere complained that they couldn't do anything about a Fighter that had it and kept the monsters locked down .. you know, doing his *ROLE* as a defender.

Come and Get It actually got alot of complaints about realism more over its balance.


Its still an awesome power.