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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 8:33AM #161
Fardiz
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2010
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The exact opposite - don't take a char-op build to a public game (e.g. LFR). If you are playing a home game, you can bring OPd characters and the DM can adjust (this can go quite away, e.g. Shoot to Thrill would be fine, whereas the Oppenheimer would not).
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 8:40AM #162
GenericScreenName
Date Joined: Dec 3, 2011
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Jun 21, 2012 -- 7:06AM, kabooki369 wrote:

You might be playing D&D wrong if you have if you allow your neutral Chaotic Sorcerer hold the group's money over your LG paladin.



As a Chaos Sorcerer forcedly working together with a LG Paladin, I have to strongly disagree.Laughing The Paladin is too dumb to... ahem, "manage" the party funds, and the Rogue... well...

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 8:40AM #163
mellored
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2008
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Jun 21, 2012 -- 8:33AM, Fardiz wrote:

The exact opposite - don't take a char-op build to a public game (e.g. LFR). If you are playing a home game, you can bring OPd characters and the DM can adjust (this can go quite away, e.g. Shoot to Thrill would be fine, whereas the Oppenheimer would not).


Depends on who else brings what.


Though i guess i should say...

You might be playing D&D wrong if you take an infinite damage unkillable PC to a game. 

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F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter.  With some warlord stuff.  Broken in a plot way, not a power way.
Thought Switch   Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1.  If your allies play along, it's broken.
Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation.  5 of these will end anything.  Broken.
King Fisher Does an excellent job at keeping an enemy disabled in a few ways.  Strong.
Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.
Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit.  Overpowered.
Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.
Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.
Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.
Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.
Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.
Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.
Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.
Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.
Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.
Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.
Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.
Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.
The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.
Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power
Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken
Unnamed Avenger|Runepriest/Hammer of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.
Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.
Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.
Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight, only far more broken.
Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.
Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones.  Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 8:46AM #164
Rancid_Rogue
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2009
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You might be playing life wrong if you enjoy taking an infinite damage unkillable PC to a game
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 6:21PM #165
syrazemyla
Date Joined: Oct 16, 2007
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May 21, 2012 -- 11:17AM, Fardiz wrote:

- your barbarian wants to play an arcane class with barbarian stats



Barbarian|sorcerer says hi.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 10:27PM #166
Zathris
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Barb|Sorc doesn't use "Barbarian Stats" by charop standards, which isn't really disproving your point.
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Harden the Heart, and Improve the Mind;
Born of Blood, but Forged by Fire;
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 22, 2012 - 7:24PM #167
BRJN
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2001
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Jun 21, 2012 -- 8:25AM, mellored wrote:

You might be playing D&D wrong if you take a char-op build to a home game.



Better:    ...if you take a DPR Kings build...

Best complements I have yet received:
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Making it up as I go along:
{BRJN}
     If I was writing the Tome of Lore, I would let Auppenser sleep. But I also would have him dream.
     In his dreaming he re-activates the innate powers of (some) mortal minds. Or his dreaming changes the nature of reality - currently very malleable thanks to Spellplague &c. Or whatever really cool flavor text and pseudo-science explanation people react positively to.
{Lord_Karsus}
You know, I like that better than the explanations for the Spellplague.

My plot device: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/ … #489880509 (The reaction is the next post.)

Prepped ahead of time:
I started the thread "1001 Failed Interrogation Results"
{ADHadh}
These are all good and make sense!  I just can't come up with something that's not covered here and is not completely ridiculous.

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LFR Half-elf StarLock6     Gondolin Nightstar
AoA Dwarf Guardian Druid6     Narvik from House Wavir

Character A-building:
Neverwinter Dwarven Invoker / Heir of Delzoun / worships Silvanus (!)
"Truenamer" - speaks Words of Creation

Concepts I'm kicking around:
"Buggy" Wizard - insect flavor on everything
Halfling Tempest Fighter - just because nobody else is doing it
Shifter Beast-o-phile Druid - for PoL campaign
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 6:49PM #168
l33tspeak
Date Joined: Nov 23, 2009
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You have been playing in a weekly campaign for the last 2.5 years, haven't read any rule book, then because of this force your boy friend to make all of your characters for you, then complain that you don't know how to play and that your character is junk. (continues to be a true story)
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 9:16PM #169
baldhermit
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2010
Posts: 1,082

Jun 29, 2012 -- 6:49PM, l33tspeak wrote:

You have been playing in a weekly campaign for the last 2.5 years, haven't read any rule book...




Shortened that for ya.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 30, 2012 - 6:11PM #170
kirbfucius
Date Joined: May 2, 2011
Posts: 176
I dunno, my wife gets along just fine with the characters I make her and she's never read a rulebook.  She describes the character she wants, we find something that fits the general principle, then we whittle it down into a PC that contributes to the party and she has fun playing.  

Granted, I also take the time to explain what each of her powers do, why those powers were chosen, and what situations they're for.  It also helps that those characters aren't junk thanks to the good people of CharOp.
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