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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 8:40AM
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Jan 11, 2005
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Sorry for the resurrect, but would the Tactician's armor Int bonus apply to the Bard class feature Skill Versatility (add +1 bonus to untrained skill checks) when said skills are Int based?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 14, 2012 - 3:59PM
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Sorry for the resurrect, but would the Tactician's armor Int bonus apply to the Bard class feature Skill Versatility (add +1 bonus to untrained skill checks) when said skills are Int based?
No, because it's not doing anything directly related to your INT modifier.
If you wear Tactician's Ringmail armor as a Wizard, it *will* increase all of your damage by +1 though, including Magic Missile damage. Just not your attack rolls.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 9:28AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 11, 2005
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Undrhil, I'm probably just obtuse, but I don't understand your response. Rolling a skill check does use the relevant ability modifier (and in this case that modifier would be INT). If the item adds a bonus to a class feature that modifies skill checks, why wouldn't it apply in this case?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 2:36PM
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"When a power or class feature calls on your Intelligence modifier ... other than your attack bonus" Skill versatility: You gain a +1 bonus to untrained skill checks. Power or class feature? Yes. Call on your intelligence modifier? No. Other than your attack bonus? Yes. Does not meet all conditions. Skill versatility does not "call on" anything - untrained skill checks "call on" skill versatility, if any "calling on" is happening at all.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 3:41PM
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Thanks, Wibble, that does make it clear. I knew I was being obtuse!
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 7:52AM
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Does tactician's armor augment inspiring word and combat leader when modified by the following feats?:
- Tactical inspiration
- Tactician's word
- Combat commander
I killed Aleena.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 8:23AM
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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No. Tactician's Armor affect only powers or class features, not feats.
EDIT Yes for Combat Leader + Combat Commander.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 4:53PM
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No. Tactician's Armor affect only powers or class features, not feats.
What if a feat modifies a power or class feature?
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 7:27PM
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May 12, 2009
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If a feat calls on your intelligence modifier to determine a value that modify a power or class feature, it won't add 1 to that value because the game element calling it must be a power or class feature itself, not what it modify.
AV 54 Tactician's Armor: When a power or class feature calls on your Intelligence modifier to determine a value other than your attack bonus, add 1 to that value.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 7:34PM
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If a feat calls on your intelligence modifier to determine a value that modify a power or class feature, it won't add 1 to that value because the game element calling it must be a power or class feature itself, not what it modify.
AV 54 Tactician's Armor: When a power or class feature calls on your Intelligence modifier to determine a value other than your attack bonus, add 1 to that value.
So, if a feat modifies a class feature to use your INT modifier, the modified class feature is no longer a class feature?
Combat Commander basically changes Combat Leader to give an INIT boost to your allies equal to your CHA- or INT-modifier value.
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