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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 6:24PM
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you seem to be pretty abrasive right now zelink, against pretty much anyone who dares to post. Calm down a bit, it's getting offensive.
In his defense, it is kind of a silly question. "Can I get something that has prerequisites without meeting them?".
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 6:32PM
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leave him alone he is channelling Erachma and its funny
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 6:47PM
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you seem to be pretty abrasive right now zelink, against pretty much anyone who dares to post. Calm down a bit, it's getting offensive.
In his defense, it is kind of a silly question. "Can I get something that has prerequisites without meeting them?".
And yet, OMG! There's a way of doing it!
Funny how that works in an exception-based system.
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 6:51PM
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leave him alone he is channelling Erachma and its funny
Seconded.
Questions like this should be asked elsewhere, or not at all- It's not CharOp material, and thus has no use here.
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 6:58PM
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you seem to be pretty abrasive right now zelink, against pretty much anyone who dares to post. Calm down a bit, it's getting offensive.
In his defense, it is kind of a silly question. "Can I get something that has prerequisites without meeting them?".
And yet, OMG! There's a way of doing it!
Funny how that works in an exception-based system.
As you're in charop, "that is worth doing" is assumed to be added to every question. The answer is no. Sure I COULD be a bard and MC every class, but why would I?
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 7:28PM
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Even better, you could be a charging Bard/Ardent/Cleric/Warlord/Druid/Artificer/Shaman and be every leader at ONCE charging. Not much better than that 
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 8:27PM
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Where should OP ask this question? Seriously Char Op. OP could have asked General Discussion or the Rules & FAQ, but if someone has a question to about building a character there is literally no other place better at putting things that shouldn't work together in a way that is awesome.
Even if OP already knew the answer, but also knew s/he lacked the system mastery of many Char Oppers, then OP is still right in thinking that somebody here might know of a sneaky way around the problem.
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 8:44PM
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Simple Question/Simple answer
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 9:05PM
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Even better, you could be a charging Bard/Ardent/Cleric/Warlord/Druid/Artificer/Shaman and be every leader at ONCE charging. Not much better than that
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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
HerpDerp, level 11
Half-Elf, Bard, Traveler's Harlequin
Bardic Virtue Option: Virtue of Cunning
Half-Elf Power Selection Option: Dilettante
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 12, CON 14, DEX 19, INT 13, WIS 16, CHA 15
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 11, DEX 17, INT 11, WIS 13, CHA 13
AC: 24 Fort: 20 Ref: 23 Will: 22
HP: 76 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 19
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +11, Bluff +12, Endurance +11, Heal +13, Insight +15, Nature +13, Perception +13, Religion +11
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +9, Athletics +6, Diplomacy +10, Dungeoneering +9, History +7, Intimidate +8, Stealth +9, Streetwise +8, Thievery +9
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Bard Feature: Majestic Word
Bard Feature: Words of Friendship
Shaman Feature: Call Spirit Companion
Shaman Feature: Spirit's Shield
Shaman Feature: Speak with Spirits
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Artificer Feature: Healing Infusion: Resistive Formula
Artificer Feature: Healing Infusion: Curative Admixture
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Bard Attack 1: Firemetal Shot
Bard Attack 1: Saga of Rivalry
Bard Utility 2: Beguiling Ballad
Bard Attack 3: Echoing Weapon
Bard Attack 5: Scathing Rebuke
Bard Utility 6: Ode to Sacrifice
Bard Attack 7: Insightful Shot
Bard Attack 9: Rain of Starlight
Bard Utility 10: Mantle of Unity
Traveler's Harlequin Attack 11: Traveler's Mummery
FEATS
Bravura Leader
Level 1: Ritual Caster
Level 2: Spirit Talker
Level 4: Fervent Talent
Level 6: Barreling Charge
Level 10: Wintertouched
Level 11: Lasting Frost
Level 11: Student of Artifice
Level 11: Versatile Master
ITEMS
Ritual Book
Banish Vermin
Glib Limerick
Frost Shortbow +2 x1
Agile Chainmail +2 x1
Absence Amulet +3 x1
====== End ======
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 9:07PM
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Feb 26, 2011
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But you don't charge with the shortbow, and so you clearly must be sub-optimal... :P
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