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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:37AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2006
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Are there some house rules for swimming that you haven't mentioned? Because otherwise the ONLY hindrance any armor applies to swimming is the armor check penalty to athletics, and plate is only 1 point worse than hide armor, and can be ignored with the armor finesse feat to completely remove the penalty, and shield finesse also if using a shield.
A low strength character (especially one not trained in athletics) is going to have a hard time swimming regardless of what armor they are wearing.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 9:52AM
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Level I believe is 8 and we would certainly be hitting paragon level eventually.
I've been checking out the possibility of a swordmage which takes Arcane Mutterings so that all the social skills bounce off Arcana. That seems insanely good for what I'm after! That way I get the defender role, I get to level up the primary/secondary stats easily, put a tertiary in Wisdom to get Will and bonuses to Insight and then still use the social skills with Arcana which being a swordmage will be boosted up to silly levels.
If you think you can get your hands on some cantrips, that'd help you replace Arcana more than once per encounter. Spook uses Arcana for Intimidate, and Suggestion uses Arcana for Diplomacy. You can get one of them with a feat (Fey Cantrip; requires the fey origin or a rather weak prereq feat), or you can hybrid Wizard (Swordmage|Wizard is a pretty darn good hybrid; buy back Warding and you've hardly lost anything except a wee bit of marking flexibility). Going hybrid would also keep your ranged options pretty open.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:26AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2010
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Level I believe is 8 and we would certainly be hitting paragon level eventually.
I've been checking out the possibility of a swordmage which takes Arcane Mutterings so that all the social skills bounce off Arcana. That seems insanely good for what I'm after! That way I get the defender role, I get to level up the primary/secondary stats easily, put a tertiary in Wisdom to get Will and bonuses to Insight and then still use the social skills with Arcana which being a swordmage will be boosted up to silly levels.
If you think you can get your hands on some cantrips, that'd help you replace Arcana more than once per encounter. Spook uses Arcana for Intimidate, and Suggestion uses Arcana for Diplomacy. You can get one of them with a feat (Fey Cantrip; requires the fey origin or a rather weak prereq feat), or you can hybrid Wizard (Swordmage|Wizard is a pretty darn good hybrid; buy back Warding and you've hardly lost anything except a wee bit of marking flexibility). Going hybrid would also keep your ranged options pretty open.
Yeah, but he said no hybrids : / I don't really make anything except hybrids these days, the straight classes are kind of.. mundane.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:27AM
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Level I believe is 8 and we would certainly be hitting paragon level eventually.
I've been checking out the possibility of a swordmage which takes Arcane Mutterings so that all the social skills bounce off Arcana. That seems insanely good for what I'm after! That way I get the defender role, I get to level up the primary/secondary stats easily, put a tertiary in Wisdom to get Will and bonuses to Insight and then still use the social skills with Arcana which being a swordmage will be boosted up to silly levels.
If you think you can get your hands on some cantrips, that'd help you replace Arcana more than once per encounter. Spook uses Arcana for Intimidate, and Suggestion uses Arcana for Diplomacy. You can get one of them with a feat (Fey Cantrip; requires the fey origin or a rather weak prereq feat), or you can hybrid Wizard (Swordmage|Wizard is a pretty darn good hybrid; buy back Warding and you've hardly lost anything except a wee bit of marking flexibility). Going hybrid would also keep your ranged options pretty open.
Yeah, but he said no hybrids : / I don't really make anything except hybrids these days, the straight classes are kind of.. mundane.
Oy. I even reread the first post looking for restrictions, too. I'm just stupid today, apparently.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:28AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2007
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Can't recall the exact rules, but he did mention that he ruled a much bigger minus figure on Athletics checks to swim in scale mail for someone who nearly died in his last campaign. Basically I think it's harder in this system to swim in plate mail............which makes sense considering how heavy the bloody thing is! :P
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:31AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2010
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In response to the OP, paladin does have a few ranged punishment powers (Price of cowardice, ray of reprisal), plus you can sanction the room and punish them at any range. Granted your punishments won't exactly be earth shattering, but it's a little zap of damage and -2 to hit.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:42AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2007
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fair do's in fact, probably easier to ignore being ranged, I'm not too fussed about that any more. :-) The issue is do I stick to normal plate mail tank armour despite being on boats at see, or is there a legit way that wearing light armour with a high dex could work? There is apparently another house rule that gives a further +2 to a stat if I write a particularly good background (he encourages a good back story and roleplay) so suddenly the MAD issue isn't as apparent any more.
Plus bear in mind if I go for the Winter domain and take his new Black Ice Ascendant paragon path later, if I wear cloth armour, I get + 2 AC anyway plus the mass amounts of Cold/Necrotic resists. So with a decent enough dex (to up the AC in light armour) my AC doesn't suffer much compared to plate mail yet I'll be more "agile" when at sea battles.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:49AM
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I like Tiefling Paladins. You go Cha primary, take Wrath of the Crimson Legion, Call of Challenge, and Valorous Smite. It's not quite ranged, but it's the ability to mark multiple enemies while not standing next to them.
In the house ruling realm, I'd love a Beastmaster Ranger who's pet has an aura that allows him to punish (and use the Sentinel / FBT rules for the companion).
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 10:53AM
#29
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How harsh is your access to items? A Floating Shield is a level 1 item, literally as cheap as you can get for a non-consumable, and it'll solve your swimming worries altogether.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 29, 2012 - 11:15AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2007
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Tieflings not in this setting I'm afraid. But it's ok I have a race I can take that's half decent
+ 2 CON + 2 CHA (remember I get +2 again somewhere for a decent background)
+ 2 Arcana (ok a waste) + 2 Insight
+1 Will defence racial
Aid Another provides + 3 when used with a knowledge check.
Encounter power: - if hit, change target defence to Will - if it misses you blind the attacker - SWEET!
Access to items is standard. I get a certain amount of money and being Level 7 or 8 I'll have whatever is normal (up to 7-8 levels of items so 1 big item or several smaller items).
That floating shield sounds perfect. The more I try to build a dexturous paladin, the more it fails abysmally! :P Chaladins should be tanked in armour, it's the right way to go! :-) The shield would be a nice item to have for this kind of campaign where water is abundant!
Edit : - hard to resist going for human though...........extra at will power and feat and skill is dam good!!
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