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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 12:58AM
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As an aside, you may want to reread intimidate in the compendium. Player Characters, i.e. Adventurers are not monsters.. Well ok, some are, but not in the rules text applicable way 
To DME, or not to DME: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous powergaming, Or to take arms against a sea of Munchkins, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;No more;
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:12AM
#22
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Mar 10, 2009
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pfft so a bloodied combatant is immune to being scared to quit but a monster can be? whatevs :D
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:13AM
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People provoke? E: you need initiative to not die when any optimised striker unloads their nova. Because unless you go first, you die when any optimised striker unloads their nova. And afterwards, even if you didn't die, you're probably at the very least slowed and prone.
4e is not designed for PvP, it's a bad system for PvP, don't PvP in 4e.
Second E: you're also NOT following the current LFR rules, you're following an out-of-date version.
A well designed character will have an interrupt or reaction to stop most nova builds.
Nova rounds are often built on a house of cards and easily fall apart when the enemy does something unexpected...
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:15AM
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Oct 28, 2010
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Having seen this character, however, it doesn't.
And at level 6, few do in general.
This is precisely what I mean - if you can see the character in advance, you can kill it before it can kill you. You can plan for its tricks.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:16AM
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Sleep - Coup de Grace - Win.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:21AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 10, 2009
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unfortunately i dont think the rules allow for such easy coup de grace- the character has to be helpless, and the way dominate got changed from 3.5 i doubt CDG could be used the same way (ie dominate used to mean you can dictate ANY action, like making them run themselves through with a sword- now its just a measly mba against yourself)
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:25AM
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Oct 28, 2010
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Sleep Slows you (meaning you probably can't get cloase enough to use your own nova) then renders you Unconscious (because you probably fail your save when an Imposer wizard Sleeps you), and he then wanders up and CDGs you.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:26AM
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Date Joined:
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unfortunately i dont think the rules allow for such easy coup de grace- the character has to be helpless, and the way dominate got changed from 3.5 i doubt CDG could be used the same way (ie dominate used to mean you can dictate ANY action, like making them run themselves through with a sword- now its just a measly mba against yourself)
What makes you think sleep dominates?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 1:38AM
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Feb 20, 2012
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PVP in 4e is meaningless, you cannot build a character that withstands a striker nova. Actually, forget nova, there are characters that could kill one of you every single round forever. Like this one.[]untold_power [X]told_power
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1 year ago ::
Apr 28, 2012 - 2:32AM
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Dec 22, 2010
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pfft so a bloodied combatant is immune to being scared to quit but a monster can be? whatevs :D
Er, yes? Coz them's the rules...
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