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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 5:44PM #11
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Torog got statted up but he's missing some of the god features, his description said he was badly damaged and never quite recovers his full godly powers.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 7:52PM #12
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 9:40AM, dave2008 wrote:

Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:41PM, rampant wrote:

Um 4e stats out gods quite a bit, I mean not as much as 3e (and I don't know how common for a proper god to get statted out before that) but I know lolth, bahamut, and tiamut got statted up.

Torog, and Orcus also got statted up but those two aren't proper deities, Torog got messed up and Orcus is right on the bloody edge of ascension but never quite manages to hold onto god-hood. 


Actually Torog is a full fledged god.  He is listed as a god in the DMG and his article in dragon/dungeon (can't remember which) specifically stats that he is a god, despite the other gods wishing to caste him out.

You also forgot the Vecna has stats.  I think so far we have official deity stats for:  Bahamut,  Lolth, Tiamat, Torog, & Vecna





and there are... how many dieties? 11 in the PH1, a bunch from Forgotten Realms, and we have stats for 5. I'm not counting that as statting out the gods.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 8:41PM #13
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They're gods, they're statted, you're wrong.

Now that said back in 3e every god and their dog got statted out, and then some. Did anyone actually use the green haired dwarf chick from the back of the deities and demigod's book? What about that Sun and shadow duotheism?

 
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1 year ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 3:41AM #14
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 5:44PM, rampant wrote:

Torog got statted up but he's missing some of the god features, his description said he was badly damaged and never quite recovers his full godly powers.


You may not think of him as a god, but the default is that he is a god.  He is listed as a god in the DMG, the compendium, Underdark and the DDI article on him.  He has worshipers and discorporates, which I believe is unique to gods.

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1 year ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 10:49AM #15
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I never said he wasn't a god, I just don't put him in the same category as the dragons or lolth because his description cites him as being messed the [expletive deleted] up. Also I thought he couldn't discorporate.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 6:19PM #16
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5 of the number of gods documented for 4th is indeed a massive proportioin. I am so in error.


Um, Dave2008? Did your question get answered to your satisfaction? Did you get the information you needed? Or the ideas to work what you wanted?
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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 4:28AM #17
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May 1, 2012 -- 10:49AM, rampant wrote:

I never said he wasn't a god, I just don't put him in the same category as the dragons or lolth because his description cites him as being messed the [expletive deleted] up. Also I thought he couldn't discorporate.


Torog can discorporate, he does so differently though.  I can't remember how, but I can loo it up if you want?

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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 4:32AM #18
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May 4, 2012 -- 6:19PM, WhisperMagellan wrote:

5 of the number of gods documented for 4th is indeed a massive proportioin. I am so in error.


Um, Dave2008? Did your question get answered to your satisfaction? Did you get the information you needed? Or the ideas to work what you wanted?


They have stated 5 of the 20 main gods (25%).  This is not a huge portion, but they have stated gods.  To say they don't count because they didn't stat all of the gods is a little odd a think.


Also, I didn't have any question that needed to be answered, so I am not sure if your confused or just being a little snarky.

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1 year ago  ::  May 06, 2012 - 8:06AM #19
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I think he's just getting you mixed up with acfreakman12, the OP.
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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 9:23AM #20
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 8:41PM, rampant wrote:

They're gods, they're statted, you're wrong.

Now that said back in 3e every god and their dog got statted out, and then some. Did anyone actually use the green haired dwarf chick from the back of the deities and demigod's book? What about that Sun and shadow duotheism?

 


I actually use the dualism, it is flavorfull when developed. Albeit it is existing along the common gods, as a sort of diffuse principes, it's complicated theology.

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