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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 8:50PM
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Forgotten Realms is great, Dragonlance is great, Dark Sun is great, Spelljammer is great, Hollow World and Ravenloft and Eberon and Blackmoore and Greyhawk and Ghostwalk and Al-Qadim and...
They're all wonderful. We have stong emotional connections to these worlds, and in some way lived part of our lives in them. But it's time for fresh blood. The last Dungeons and Dragons campaign setting, Eberron, was released 8 years ago. This game thrives on fresh ideas as much as it stands upon the pillars of what comes before. Novelty is the genesis of wonder. So please Wizards, I ask for a new campaign setting this edition. Give us a new world to muddy our boots in.
What kind of setting would you like to see? What books, movies, and other art should it draw inspiration from?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 9:01PM
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I think a new campaign setting is a good idea. It may be more of an enticement for some fans of other editions to look at the game than the new edition itself. As for what I'd like to see in the new setting, that's a rougher question. There are a bunch of things I want to see, but they don't all mesh together into a coherent setting.
Why Mechanics-Alignment Integration is Bad
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 9:08PM
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Mar 18, 2012
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I think a new campaign setting is a good idea. It may be more of an enticement for some fans of other editions to look at the game than the new edition itself. As for what I'd like to see in the new setting, that's a rougher question. There are a bunch of things I want to see, but they don't all mesh together into a coherent setting.
You bring up a good point. Fans of already esisting settings can still play them with the rules they were released under. If you were a 2nd edition Realms player, there was no real need to switch to the new edition, but if you wanted to play Ebberon you had to update.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 9:11PM
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If not update, then at least buy the setting book(s).
Why Mechanics-Alignment Integration is Bad
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
D20 Modern Toon PC Race.
Mecha Pilot's Skill Challenge Emporium.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 11:18PM
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The 4e concept of a general semi-defined setting as the baseline works best for me. I've done my own worlds for the last 30+ years. What I've found is that the class backstory, i.e., in 2e, the bards were angents of the druids, tends to drive my settings.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 26, 2012 - 7:02AM
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I'd like to see Next out for a couple years before WotC publishes a new setting that plays into the new edition's mechanics and particulars.
Personally, I would like to see a campaign setting focused on demihuman cultures rather than human.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 26, 2012 - 10:18AM
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Novelty is the genesis of wonder. So please Wizards, I ask for a new campaign setting this edition. Give us a new world to muddy our boots in.
Trying to put together a new campaign world and a new game at the same time would be a disaster. WotC doesn't have the staff to give both the attention they need, and the coordination challenge of trying to do both would slow the whole process way down.
That said, I do hope we get a new campaign setting for 5e at some point. You are right that the game could use something new.
There are a couple of things I would like to see. A very low magic/low fantasy setting. Something where non-human races and creatures are quite rare. A lot of the 2e campaigns I played in where built around this sort of world, but they are quite rare now.
A swashbuckling sea based campaign world could be great fun. This is generally a fairly easy type of campaign to run, but a world built around it would provide a lot of interesting material to work with. I would like a early Renaissance technology world, probably with a bit of steampunk flair to it. Something where gun powder and techno-magic items wouldn't feel out of place.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 26, 2012 - 11:32AM
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in general i would like to see bigger difrences between campaign settings.
and in a modular system each campaign settings could have moduals specific to that campaign.
to me many campsign settings in editions uptill now feld same ish, darksun usualy being the exeption to this rule.
I woulden't mind if eberon would use quite a difrent rule set then for example forgotten realms.
Things like how the cosmolegy works would also be campaign setting based
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1 year ago ::
Apr 26, 2012 - 1:44PM
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The running thone of choose your own rule set to apply is dominating the design conversations so I would like an initial setting with release (like the Points of light) and then a campaign setting crafters book. Something that puts world building into an easy format for new players. I know it's a lot of theoretical concept stuff. It I would like that kind of product.
I think a steam punk setting would be kind of cool. I would love it if they just steam punked up Ravenloft though, you know, as the edition update.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 26, 2012 - 4:26PM
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I would like to see something new... but it would need to be sufficiently different from generic fantasy to make me want to buy it. Generic fantasy settings are, mostly, not that much different from what you are likely to make yourself... so seem a little pointless to me. Especially as they will be producing FR material.
A swashbuckling theme might be a good starting point.
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