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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 2:59AM
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Date Joined:
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At the moment this is just going to be an idea dump, I will reformat everything into a proper guide format once I have some motivation. If you have suggestions or things you want to make sure get added, please post them on here during this first stage. The more information I have to work with, the better! Please do not post without looking in this Sblock if you are in any way confused about what this build means:
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This build is specifically using Ancient Soul to recharge your breath weapon whenever you take damage of the same type as your breath. Nusemnee's Atonement allows you to redirect damage from your allies in your breath's area to yourself. Ideally this allows you to breath 3x per turn (since it is a minor action). I am planning on building different versions of this to take into account that many DMs will not allow you to breath 3 times a turn, regardless of what the rules say (Or in Epic 7+ times in a turn).
Without Nusemnee's Atonement as the recharger most builds will kill themselves very quickly. PC health does not scale like monster health and without NA you are going to be penetrating all of your own lovely resistance. Hurl Breath and NA together also allow you to keep your distance if you need to which is very crucial to not getting eaten for this build.
Stats for this build will vary a little bit depending on how much con and dex you want/need for the build. DIS is very useful for both builds, but less so for the slide/push heavy builds that need you to have at minimum +1 con mod (and then sooner you get it the better). One thing that is taken as a base assumption is that your will start the build with 18 str and 18 cha (after mods). (There is a rare chance this might be different for the 1/round breath sub-build, but that will come into play later).
Feats (General): Ancient Soul - Required Nusemnee's Atonement - Required Draconic Spellcaster Draconic Arrogance True Dragon's Soul (Mostly useless, but included) Draconic Reaping (Revenant) Plagued Breath (Spellscar) Enlarged Breath Hurl Breath Daunting Breath (Trained in Intimidate) Powerful Breath Surprising Breath Adaptable Breath + Admixture Breath Empowered Dragon Breath Critical Breath Opportunity Breath Feats (Specific MC): Breath of Life (Cleric) Draconic Challenge (Paladin) Dragonborn Vengeance (Warden) - Feat bonus >.> Emerald Scale Concealment (Assassin) Breath of the Gods/Covenant of Io (Invoker, requires Hybrid. Covenant makes Divine Attack Power) Dragonclaw Mark (Fighter) Inspiring Breath (Warlord) Primal Breath (Warden) Io's Roar (Any psionic) Dragonbreath Warrior (Any Martial) Dragon Breath Scoundrel (Rogue) Dragon Breath Tactician (Warlord) Feats (Specific Breath Types): Arcane Admixture Fire: Fiery Blood Burning Breath Surging Flame Lightning/Thunder: Lightning Soul Thunder's Rumble Thundering Breath Cold: Icy Heart Frost Breath Radiant: Radiant Breath Acid: Burning Vapors Corrosive Breath Poison: Toxic Breath Items: Blazing Blessing of Fangs Blessing of the Queen Set Silver Dragon Regalia Paragon Paths: Ninefold Master Argentum Alliance Epic Destinies: Master of Moments Avatar of Io Note: Wizards site went down for maintenance while I was trying to keep my motivation up to do this... Figures.
Currently working on making a Dex based defender. Check it out hereSpoiler:
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Need a few pre-generated characters for a one-shot you are running? Want to get a baseline for what an effective build for a class you aren't familiar with? Check out the Pregen thread here
If ever you are interested what it sounds like to be at my table check out my blog and podcast here
Also, I've recently done an episode on "Refluffing". You can check that out here
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 2:59AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 19, 2004
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Possible Builds:
For the moment I am planning on organizing builds by their primary breath weapon type (The one you chose at level 1.)
Lighting Builds:
DPR King Build (Argentum Alliance / Master of Moments (MC Fighter) - The Single Target Killer)
Voice of Thunder - (Ninefold Master / Avatar of Io (MC Fighter) - Multi-target Damage and Forced Movement)
Invisible Defender - (Sorcerer|Fighter / ** (MC Assassin) - The Best Tanks can't be seen.)
Word to your Warlord (What to do if you never leave Heroic Tier)
Fire:
True Dragons Breath Fire - (Ninefold Master / Avatar of Io (MC Warlord or Fighter) - For when you want to make sure they keep on burning.
Cold/Acid:
The DM's Friend - (Ninefold Master / ** (MC **) - The 1/round build to prevent your DM from pulling their hair out)
Radiant:
Convenant of Mouths (Sorcerer|Invoker / ** (MC**) - Possible goal of playing with breath as a radiant "divine attack power"
Psychic:
My Mouth says "Dark Sun" (Ninefold Master / Avatar of Io (MC Psion) - For tossing out vulnerabilities. Thus far a very weak build)
Currently working on making a Dex based defender. Check it out hereSpoiler:
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Need a few pre-generated characters for a one-shot you are running? Want to get a baseline for what an effective build for a class you aren't familiar with? Check out the Pregen thread here
If ever you are interested what it sounds like to be at my table check out my blog and podcast here
Also, I've recently done an episode on "Refluffing". You can check that out here
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 2:59AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 19, 2004
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Currently working on making a Dex based defender. Check it out hereSpoiler:
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Need a few pre-generated characters for a one-shot you are running? Want to get a baseline for what an effective build for a class you aren't familiar with? Check out the Pregen thread here
If ever you are interested what it sounds like to be at my table check out my blog and podcast here
Also, I've recently done an episode on "Refluffing". You can check that out here
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 3:00AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 19, 2004
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Items:
Currently working on making a Dex based defender. Check it out hereSpoiler:
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Need a few pre-generated characters for a one-shot you are running? Want to get a baseline for what an effective build for a class you aren't familiar with? Check out the Pregen thread here
If ever you are interested what it sounds like to be at my table check out my blog and podcast here
Also, I've recently done an episode on "Refluffing". You can check that out here
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 3:00AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 19, 2004
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Sample Normal Turn:
Sample Nova Turn:
Currently working on making a Dex based defender. Check it out hereSpoiler:
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Need a few pre-generated characters for a one-shot you are running? Want to get a baseline for what an effective build for a class you aren't familiar with? Check out the Pregen thread here
If ever you are interested what it sounds like to be at my table check out my blog and podcast here
Also, I've recently done an episode on "Refluffing". You can check that out here
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 8:21AM
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Not to be rude but didn't I read a thread on this subject two years ago?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 8:34AM
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Not to be rude but didn't I read a thread on this subject two years ago?
Not to be rude but does that really matter?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 9:28AM
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Date Joined:
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Hey, that was his own thread. Can't blame the man for updating.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 10:16AM
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Date Joined:
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Wow, we ARE all ****s at CharOp. It was the same guy, good luck with this Matyr!
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1 year ago ::
Apr 25, 2012 - 4:11PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 15, 2001
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Nusemnee's Atonement - Required
Not required. You can use Bolstering Breath to make it friendly/buff and find another way to take damage to recharge. Can slow down the rate of fire, but improves targetting and makes you a little survivable.
Items:
Blazing Blessing of Fangs
Blessing of the Queen Set
?Gifts for the Queen?
Silver Dragons Regalia can save a few feat slots.
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