|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 3:32PM
#121
|
|
|
Just because you hate CSI Andrakin doesn't mean you have to get angry 
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 3:36PM
#122
|
Date Joined:
Jan 30, 2009
|
Can we get a Collaborative List of the Best Posts in this Thread?
All of the best posts involve infinite pixies.
But that is true of every thread.
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 6:07PM
#123
|
Date Joined:
Dec 11, 2007
|
A Collaborative List of the Best Colours, perhaps.
Or the Best Swallows.
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 6:09PM
#124
|
|
|
Pixies are smaller than swallows
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 7:44PM
#125
|
Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2010
|
..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />Or the Best Swallows.
Had to resist the urge to reply with "Your Mom". 
Er oops.
 sera
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 8:19PM
#126
|
Date Joined:
Aug 16, 2005
|
This list highlights 75 of the 4000 Heroic powers. YES
Over 75% of it was generated by the community so far. NO
All information is presented with a bias, and none of the information is to be considered definitive as there
are just to many variables including battle maps, DMs, Players, Rule Interpretations, Errata Etc. YES
The opinions here will not 100% coinside with your own. YES
It is just one of many views of the non-linear Heroic Powers. NO
Whenever creating an OP character, it is always a good idea to check many guides. YES and NO
Contents:
Best List NO it is just a list of powers
Great List NO it is just a list of powers
Heavily Contested Powers YES but only within this thread
Information on the List YES it is information
This is Baja's list of the best powers for heroic tier.
(25) max
Ardent - Mindlink Strike - 2 augments - close burst 1 ~2w and one 1w Please explain why this is optimal
Artificer - Punishing Eye - moving 48sq area adds mod damage to all pc attacks, denys concealment YES but Magic Weapon is more important
Battlemind - Lodestone Lure - 2 augments - melee 5, 1w, pull 4, knock prone, can't move away from you NO there are other equally good options
Cleric - Moment of Glory - knock an enemy away and down and sustain resist 5 for all party members NO it is situationally awesum
Druid - Grasping Tide - at-will, burst 1 in 10 vs fort, d6+mod, restrict enemy movement or prone NO there are other equally good options
Druid - Grasping Claws - because this NO there other equally good options
Fighter - Come and Get It - close burst 3, brings enemies to you for 1w damage YES
Fighter - Thicket of Blades - 3w damage close burst 1 following Come and Get It NO there are other good options
Fighter - Rain of Steel - spend one minor to deal 1w to any enemy starting near you during the encounter YES
Fighter - Bedeviling Assault - 2w+mod, 1 free mba against that target per round for the encounter NO there are better
Fighter - Rain of Blows - 2 potentially 3 attacks, can instant kill most Heroic monsters with modifier damage NO it is too conditional i.e. build specific
Paladin - Astral Thunder - Close burst 3, 2d8 and attack penalties, as an encounter NO there are other equally good ooptions
Paladin - Wrath of the Gods - Close burst 1 utility minor action, buffs damage by charisma mod for encounter YES for a Chaladin no for a Straladin
Ranger - Twin Strike - two attack at-will, ranged or melee YES
Ranger - Spitting Cobra Stance - 1w any enemy that moved toward you NO there are other good options
Rogue - Knockout - knock enemy unconscious YES
Sorcerer - Adamantine Echo - AoE w/ongoing damage, +2-7 ac bonus w/support NO there are other good options
Swordmage - Sword Burst - close burst at-will vs reflex YES
Wizard - Sleep - knock enemies unconscious NO it is too build specific
Wizard - Summon Succubus - debuff enemies, dominate enemies, fly YES
Wizard - Visions of Avarice - burst 5 in 10 trap your enemy in a zone sustain minor NO it is situationally awesum
Warlock - Decree of Khirad - almost dominate close blast 3, consolation damage NO there are other equally good options
Warlord - Lead the Attack - 3w + mod, party bonus to attack rolls on the target NO it is build specific and there are other good options
Warlord - Stand the Fallen - 3w+mod and allies healed surge+mod NO there are other equally good options
Warlord - Lamb to the Slaughter - Pull enemy 5, enable three allies a free charge attack NO too party specific
This thread was made for fun, keep it fun! NO it should be for optimisation
Are you trying to highlight powers for Half-Elves?
Are you trying to highlight powers that other classes should poach?
Are you trying to highlight powers that will optimize the make up of classes in parties?
Why are At-Wills, Encounter and Daily powers all mixed in together?
Why are powers at differering levels all mixed in together?
Are you trying to help people pick powers for their classes?
What happened to all the other classes and their powers?
Bajat i cannot find any use for this list of powers. I have read nearly all that has been written in these threads (yes the other ones as well) and have been greatly amused. I would like to think that players come to the optimisation forum to be assisted and informed. The only thing i have learned so far is that there are a lot of ORCs.
I would direct anyone looking for help about powers to this page community.wizards.com/wiki/Dnd:CharOp/In...
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 06, 2012 - 9:35PM
#127
|
Date Joined:
Mar 31, 2010
|
..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />Or the Best Swallows.
Had to resist the urge to reply with "Your Mom".
Er oops.
sera="" --3--="">
But 'your mom' is only a good reply in 90% of cases when the person's mother isn't dead. Granted if you're talking to a bunch of people over the age of 50, the likelihood that their mother is dead is significantly higher. Now, since you're talking directly to a person, the answer of 'you' is going to useable every encounter.
Therefore, 'Your Mom' is a daily, while 'You' is an encounter and since we all know the fact that you can use encounters more than once a day, it is invariably the better choice.
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 07, 2012 - 6:22AM
#128
|
Date Joined:
Aug 31, 2009
|
Look, if you don't like the post, instead of hi-jacking the thread with repeated criticisms, just don't post anything. It doesn't hurt anyone to just let the guy have his post.
While I tend to agree, the posted argument is that it does hurt people. Specifically, new people who come here looking to learn more about optimizing their character. A misleading thread that posts powers that seem a lot better than they really are to someone with little grasp of the rules can be confusing at best, and at worst totally undermines the long-running attempts of others to educate newbies.
Anyway, as I said before in one of his many identical locked threads, of course he is free to post, but this is not the best forum to get whatever response he seems to be looking for. This would be better in GenDisc or maybe even CharDev, just discussing people's favorite powers.
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 07, 2012 - 7:31AM
#129
|
Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2008
|
+1 - should be moved to General or something. That said, the "harm" people are worried about would be largely nullified if everyone would just stop posting to this thread (and the other ones). A list with 0 replies and only a handful of page views is going to be FAR less attractive to new users than a lengthy one like this.
tl;dr: stop posting in these threads and they'll disappear.
[20:53] [SadisticFish] yeah  Llamas convinced me
|
|
|
|
1 year ago ::
May 07, 2012 - 9:07AM
#130
|
|
|
+1 - should be moved to General or something. That said, the "harm" people are worried about would be largely nullified if everyone would just stop posting to this thread (and the other ones). A list with 0 replies and only a handful of page views is going to be FAR less attractive to new users than a lengthy one like this.
tl;dr: stop posting in these threads and they'll disappear.
Baja necro'd it after 5 days of silence, so I'm not certain that would fix things.
|
|
|
