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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 4:04PM #21
Jugulator007
Date Joined: Nov 16, 2010
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Are the Ranger|Invoker PoS Divine Bolt Rapid Shot shenanigans still possible?
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 4:18PM #22
ohgoditburns
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Apr 17, 2012 -- 4:04PM, Jugulator007 wrote:

Are the Ranger|Invoker PoS Divine Bolt Rapid Shot shenanigans still possible?


I think so... but outside of a Lair Assualt, that sounds like a good way to get thwacked by a DM.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 17, 2012 - 4:57PM #23
Jugulator007
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Apr 17, 2012 -- 4:18PM, ohgoditburns wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 4:04PM, Jugulator007 wrote:

Are the Ranger|Invoker PoS Divine Bolt Rapid Shot shenanigans still possible?


I think so... but outside of a Lair Assualt, that sounds like a good way to get thwacked by a DM.




Well maybe... but it would cover dex/wis and controlling :D

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 18, 2012 - 2:54PM #24
OrionNo9
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Well the party might be a little weak on the DEX skills, the Ranger has WIS as a secondary stat and has the key WIS skill (preception) covered.

I have built Kalashtar Mage (Enchanter) and I will get to see how he does at the end of the month. 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 7:25AM #25
Jandor1
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Sounds like fun! I'm a big fan of grabbing Orb Expertise and trying to get orbs that further boost forced movement ... I LOVE being able to re-arrange the battlefield like that, it's great for enabling other players and very satisfying.

also, enchanters are set up for some ABSURDELY good powers (mass charm, charm of the defender, hypnotize ...); and remember, you can use those on your own party members for fun and profit!
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 19, 2012 - 9:04AM #26
JRedGiant1
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Jandor1, all three of the powers you mention can only target enemies.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 10:19AM #27
OrionNo9
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As I said, I have been building a Kalashtar Enchanter, but I have been auguring with myself on what At-wills I should take.  I am definitely taking Hypnotism, but for my second choice I am bouncing back and forth between Beguiling Strands and Winged Horde.  Both are solid powers and I can see uses for both.  Beguiling Strands fits my theme by being a charm and enchantment spell, with a huge area, party friendly, and a big push offers great control but does little damage, and for a single target is redundant with Hypnotism.   Winged Horde loses the enchantment and charm keywords and is a smaller area, but allows my allies to move freely and does more damage than Beguiling Strands.


 Any suggestions? Thank you

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 10:56AM #28
JRedGiant1
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The wizard in my home game bounces back between Winged Horde, Hypnotism and Beguiling Strands. I find, as a DM, that Hypnotism and Beguiling Strands tend to really bork my monsters, while Winged Horde isn't really all that impressive. Part of that is forced movement into bad terrain (there's been a lot of pools of lava lately), part is party synergy (the ranger really likes to stack on slowing and proning with his heaps of damage).

Hope that helps.
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