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1 year ago ::
Apr 13, 2012 - 5:42PM
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Lately I've really been into hybridding classes since the group I've played with has played nearly every other regular class (except Vampire...blech!) So I wanted to make a ranger/rogue that gets to apply both Hunter's Quarry and Sneak Attack damage every round. I was successful by making all of the powers Free, Immediates, or Minor (except the At-Wills which are Standard of course). TYRANTCLAW BUILT ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== Krunk, level 6 Half-Orc, Ranger/Rogue Hybrid Ranger Option: Hybrid Ranger Fortitude Hybrid Talent Option: Rogue Tactics (Hybrid) Rogue Tactics (Hybrid) Option: Brutal Scoundrel (Hybrid) Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit) FINAL ABILITY SCORES STR 19, CON 10, DEX 19, INT 8, WIS 13, CHA 11 STARTING ABILITY SCORES STR 16, CON 10, DEX 16, INT 8, WIS 13, CHA 11 AC: 19 Fort: 18 Ref: 18 Will: 14 HP: 56 Surges: 6 Surge Value: 14 TRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +12, Dungeoneering +9, Intimidate +10, Perception +9, Stealth +12, Thievery +12 UNTRAINED SKILLS Arcana +2, Athletics +7, Bluff +3, Diplomacy +3, Endurance +5, Heal +4, History +2, Insight +4, Nature +4, Religion +2, Streetwise +3 POWERS Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack Half-Orc Racial Power: Furious Assault Free Hunter's Quarry Power: Hunter's Quarry Minor Ranger Attack 1: Twin Strike Rogue Attack 1: Clever Strike Ranger Attack 1: Off-Hand Strike Minor Rogue Attack 1: Duelist's Prowess Minor Ranger Utility 2: Unbalancing Parry Immediate Reaction Rogue Attack 3: Nasty Backswing Free Ranger Attack 5: Wounded Beast Immediate Reaction Rogue Utility 6: Vexing Flanker Immediate Reaction FEATS Level 1: Spiked Chain Training Level 2: Light Blade Expertise Level 4: Hybrid Talent (Brutal Scoundrel) Level 6: Menacing Thug ITEMS Spiked chain x1 Leather Armor x1 ====== End ====== With a +2 Spiked Chain, I can do up to 91 damage to one enemy in one turn (STD: Clever Strike with CA --> FREE: Sneak Attack --> FREE: Furious Assault --> MIN: Off Hand Swing --> MIN: Hunter's Quarry --> IMRE: Wounded Beast) I was looking for a character with a free/minor/immediats schtick so this probably isn't completely optimized (which is why I'm posting it and hoping to get feedback on how I can get a little more juice out of this orange). ty in advance!
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 1:42PM
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Date Joined:
May 25, 2010
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EDIT(Removed invalid arguement)
Problem #2 How do you plan on having combat advantage against the person attacking you for Duelist Prowess? After a couple of rounds this is the only way for you to get both hunter's quarry and sneak attack in the same round?
Suggestion: Its a waste for you to have 19STR and 19Dex drop one down to 18 and boost the other to 20 you dont use any of your other abilities it seems.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 1:46PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2010
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Spiked Chain is a Light Blade when you take Spiked Chain Training.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 2:11PM
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May 25, 2010
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Oh, my bad I did not notice that. So ignore my problem #1 I made an assumption that it was just proficiency...
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 3:38PM
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I would swap out level 2 for invigorating stride. I would take low slash at 3rd, and and probably snarling wolf at 5th.
At higher levels I might retrain Rogue Tactics (Brutal Scoundrel) for Rogue tactics (cunning stalker), but that is personal prefernece for the hidden tactics.
Consider Riposte Strike as an alternative to Clever Strike. Remember rogues can add sneak attack 1/turn, rather than the 1/round for quarry, but hybrid rogue requires it to be a rogue attack. Riposte and Duelist's Prowess fulfil that condition.
As to the CA comment above, Always go for the flank...
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 3:44PM
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Feb 19, 2006
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I would swap out level 2 for invigorating stride. I would take low slash at 3rd, and and probably snarling wolf at 5th.
At higher levels I might retrain Rogue Tactics (Brutal Scoundrel) for Rogue tactics (cunning stalker), but that is personal prefernece for the hidden tactics.
Consider Riposte Strike as an alternative to Clever Strike. Remember rogues can add sneak attack 1/turn, rather than the 1/round for quarry, but hybrid rogue requires it to be a rogue attack. Riposte and Duelist's Prowess fulfil that condition.
As to the CA comment above, Always go for the flank...
Problem with Snarling Wolf Stance is that you aren't going to trigger either striker mechanic on MBAs.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 3:47PM
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This is true, I just don't rate wounded beast that highly...
Any double attack would also rate more highly in my book... RJ, are you advocating Wounded beast?
Edit: I suppose the OP took it as an off-turn attack, and for that I suppose it serves, and adds to durability...
2nd Edit: ...but as a daily, I think more damage could be generated by an MBA multiple times in an encounter (cherry pick your encounter, of course, with a target making frequent close attacks), rather than one IR, (even without the striker mechanic).
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 3:55PM
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Feb 19, 2006
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Right, normally it wouldn't be very good but it does fill a role here.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 5:43PM
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Consider Riposte Strike as an alternative to Clever Strike. Remember rogues can add sneak attack 1/turn, rather than the 1/round for quarry, but hybrid rogue requires it to be a rogue attack. Riposte and Duelist's Prowess fulfil that condition.
As to the CA comment above, Always go for the flank...
I like the Clever strike because I don't have to expose my backside to behind-enemy-lines. I can stand next to the tank (or even behind him since I have a reach weapon, in that case I don't expect enemies to attack me and trigger interrupts...)
But then again, Riposte will help out quite a bit once my other Interrupts are used...hmm.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 14, 2012 - 5:51PM
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I would swap out level 2 for invigorating stride. I would take low slash at 3rd, and and probably snarling wolf at 5th.
No go on Invigorating Stride. My Wisdom is weak and we homerule (our only homerule mind you) that Second Wind is a minor (free for Dwarves).
I Love Snarling Wolf though. It will allow me to keep Clever Strike. Thanks
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Decom, thanks for pointing out the 19/19 stat problem. A Noob mistake I overlooked. I'll surely be goin 18STR and 20DEX.
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