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1 year ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 10:45PM #1
Felwyn
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2010
Posts: 16

I am trying to make a Infernal Warlock that abuses Hellish Rebuke. Also, just in general want to hurt people. Lol I am not the best with Warlocks and need some help.  I looked at the guides but sadly i was having hard time finding anything that explained house to abuse Hellsih Rebuke.

Character creation house rules are we get a free Expertise feat and a free Dragonmark. Level 12. Any theme and Background. This is what I got so far. Standard magic items, but can get anything no rarity issues. 

Thanks in Advance!

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level 12
Tiefling, Warlock, Academy Master
Build: Scourge Warlock
Eldritch Pact: Infernal Pact
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Constitution
Twofold Pact: Sorcerer-King Pact


FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 21, Dex 14, Int 18, Wis 11, Cha 16.


STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 16, Dex 13, Int 15, Wis 10, Cha 13.



AC: 25 Fort: 25 Reflex: 26 Will: 24
HP: 88 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 22


TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +14, History +15, Bluff +16, Arcana +15


UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Diplomacy +9, Dungeoneering +6, Endurance +11, Heal +6, Insight +6, Nature +6, Perception +6, Religion +10, Stealth +10, Streetwise +9, Thievery +8, Athletics +5


FEATS
Level 1: Scion of the Gods (retrained to Mindbite Scorn at Level 11)
Level 2: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 4: Blood Pact of Cania
Level 6: Superior Implement Training (Accurate rod)
Level 8: Warlock's Wrath
Level 10: Improved Defenses
Level 11: Twofold Pact
Level 12: Brutal Curse


POWERS
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast
Infernal Pact: Hellish Rebuke
Warlock encounter 1: Diabolic Grasp
Warlock daily 1: Vile Brand
Warlock utility 2: Assassin's Bane
Warlock encounter 3: Fortune Binding
Warlock daily 5: Tyrannical Threat
Warlock utility 6: Dark One's Own Luck
Warlock encounter 7: Howl of Doom
Warlock daily 9: Feast of Souls
Warlock utility 10: Ethereal Sidestep


ITEMS
Shadowrift Blade Dagger +3, Accurate rod of Cursed Honor +3, Magic Drowmesh +3, Periapt of Cascading Health +2
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 10:52PM #2
PhilipENoe
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2011
Posts: 340
A couple methods of doing a lot of damage come to mind:

1)  Lasting frost + Arcane Admixture (cold) + Blood of Levistus
2)  Change your twofold pact to elemental pact.  You can double dip the vulnerability damage.  The only issue is constantly getting the fire vuln you want. to get extra ridiculus, MC wizard and take Consuming the Weak and Icy Clutch of Stygia

 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 11:06PM #3
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
Posts: 1,496
Take WLR and WLMR.  They allow you to horribly abuse Hellish rebuke.

Example:
1)  You hit target with Hellish Rebuke
2)  You take damage from any source
3)  Hellish Rebuke damage triggers + WLR triggers + WLMR triggers
                1)  WLMR lets you use Hellish Rebuke on the target that hit you
                2)  You take damage from any source
                3)  Hellish Rebuke damage triggers + WLR triggers + WLMR triggers
                             1)  You get the message


And using Gloves of Eldritch Admixture to make the curse damage cold will allow you to apply Lasting Frost without having to use Arcane Admixture.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 11:10PM #4
Felwyn
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2010
Posts: 16
Ok so if i got this right.....

1 Attack guy
2 Shadowrift Blade
-WLR Triggers takes CON mod Damage
- WLMR MAke Hellshi Rebuke againest him
- Hellish rebukes triggers so double tap

So it would be Hellsih rebuke x3 + con mod damage?

EDIT: Oh wait the WLR + WLMR requires the guy I hit to hit me, Shadowrift Does nothing for me this instance
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 11:20PM #5
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
Posts: 1,496
>> = Hits

Hellish Rebuke >> Target 1
Target 2 >> you
Hellish Rebuke >> Target 1 + WLR >> Target 2 + WLMR >> Target 2


Does that make it a little more clear.  Just want to make sure you follow the flow, there are a lot of moving parts.  Smile
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 11:28PM #6
Felwyn
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2010
Posts: 16
Sadly no that doesnt help at all. Reading the feats the person that i hit with the attack has to attack me to trigger WLR and WLMR. Hellish rebuke is damage from any source. SO, Hellish Rebuke Trigger would go off from ShadowRift Blade but to have WLR or WLMR go off I would need to be hit by the target of the original target of my hellsih rebuke
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 9:40AM #7
Felwyn
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2010
Posts: 16
I tweaked my build to try to optimized my at will damage. I did frost cheese and admixtured cold to hellish rebuke plus got an ashen rod, shard of fiery depth and changed out a feat for implement focus.  What do you guys think?


evel 12
Tiefling, Warlock, Academy Master
Build: Scourge Warlock
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Constitution
Eldritch Pact: Infernal Pact
Arcane Admixture Damage Type: Arcane Admixture Cold
Arcane Admixture Power: Hellish Rebuke


FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 9, Con 21, Dex 14, Int 18, Wis 11, Cha 16.


STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 16, Dex 13, Int 15, Wis 10, Cha 13.



AC: 26 Fort: 25 Reflex: 27 Will: 24
HP: 88 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 22


TRAINED SKILLS
Intimidate +14, History +15, Bluff +16, Arcana +17


UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Diplomacy +9, Dungeoneering +6, Endurance +11, Heal +6, Insight +6, Nature +6, Perception +6, Religion +10, Stealth +10, Streetwise +9, Thievery +8, Athletics +5


FEATS
Level 1: Implement Focus (Rod)
Level 2: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 4: Blood Pact of Cania
Level 6: Superior Implement Training (Ashen rod)
Level 8: Wintertouched
Level 10: Improved Defenses
Level 11: Arcane Admixture
Feat User Choice: Rod Expertise
Level 12: Lasting Frost


POWERS
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast
Infernal Pact: Hellish Rebuke
Warlock encounter 1: Diabolic Grasp
Warlock daily 1: Vile Brand
Warlock utility 2: Assassin's Bane
Warlock encounter 3: Fortune Binding
Warlock daily 5: Tyrannical Threat
Warlock utility 6: Dark One's Own Luck
Warlock encounter 7: Howl of Doom
Warlock daily 9: Feast of Souls
Warlock utility 10: Ethereal Sidestep


ITEMS
Shadowrift Blade Dagger +3, Magic Drowmesh +3, Periapt of Cascading Health +2, Quickcurse Ashen rod +3, Khyber Shard of the Fiery Depth (heroic tier)
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Looking at 1d6+25 after I get someone vunerable to cold and since I get CA when I frost cheese it is easy to setup shadowrift blade.


 
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 2:55PM #8
monkeygentleman
Date Joined: Feb 22, 2011
Posts: 1,391
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Tanya, level 12
Tiefling, Warlock, Academy Master
Build: Scourge Warlock
Eldritch Pact Option: Infernal Pact
Eldritch Blast Option: Eldritch Blast Constitution
Arcane Admixture Damage Type: Arcane Admixture Cold
Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit)
Theme: Infernal Prince
 
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 11, CON 23, DEX 11, INT 17, WIS 9, CHA 14
 
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 18, DEX 10, INT 14, WIS 8, CHA 11
 
 
AC: 24 Fort: 26 Ref: 25 Will: 23
HP: 90 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 22
 
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +16, Intimidate +13, Streetwise +13, Thievery +11
 
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +6, Athletics +6, Bluff +12, Diplomacy +10, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +12, Heal +5, History +9, Insight +5, Nature +5, Perception +5, Religion +9, Stealth +8
 
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Infernal Prince Attack: Hellfire Heart
Tiefling Racial Power: Infernal Wrath
Warlock's Curse  Power: Warlock's Curse
Warlock Attack 1: Eldritch Blast
Warlock Attack 1: Hellish Rebuke
Warlock Pact Boon 1: Dark One's Blessing
Warlock Utility 10: Ethereal Sidestep
Academy Master Attack 11: Learned Boost
Academy Master Utility 12: Refined Recall
 
FEATS
Level 1: Hellfire Blood
Level 2: Rod Expertise
Level 4: Superior Implement Training (Ashen rod)
Level 6: Improved Defenses
Level 8: Blood Pact of Cania
Level 10: Bloodied Boon
Level 11: Arcane Admixture
Level 12: Lasting Frost
 
ITEMS
Ashen rod of Corruption +3 x1
Shadow Warlock Leather Armor +2 x1
Shadowrift Blade Dagger +3 x1
Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (heroic tier)
Gloves of Ice (paragon tier) x1
Cloak of Translocation +2 x1
Warlock's Bracers x1
====== End ======

Here's a different approach. Shadow warlock armor ensures CA, and rod of corruptions spreads it, so no need for wintertouched. Huge bonuses to attack (+22 with constant CA) and damage, with the shadowrift blade to ensure double-tapping 1d6+24 damage for 4d6+48 (including curse damage). Offset the self-abuse with double-dipping in THP with bloodied boon, which also spreads your curse faster. Good defenses, especially for ranged, and extra bonus against cursed targets and whenever you teleport.

Not sure why I had to post this, just saw it and thought it'd be fun to do :D
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 12, 2012 - 3:08PM #9
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
Posts: 1,496
@Monkeygentleman:  If you could figure out how to get elemental pact into that you could add another 20 damage(10 per hit) by adding fire vulnerability.

You can always second wind and choose fire or cold or rest until you roll fire or cold.  Due to the the explicit wording of the elemental pact boon, if you get cold, the vulnerable 10 cold from the pact boon will stack with the vulnerable 5 cold from lasting frost.
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