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1 year ago  ::  Mar 24, 2012 - 5:48PM #11
rjsilverthorn
Date Joined: Feb 19, 2006
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If the build is really focusing around Winged Hordes have you considered Illusion as your secondary school over Evocation?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 24, 2012 - 8:41PM #12
Undrhil
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Actually, why did you take the Evocation Master option and not the Pyromancy Master option?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 24, 2012 - 8:47PM #13
Gadren
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Mar 24, 2012 -- 8:41PM, Undrhil wrote:

Actually, why did you take the Evocation Master option and not the Pyromancy Master option?



Because the Pyromancy master option seems like more of a drawback than a boon for this build. Part of the appeal of a 9x9 winged horde is it doesn't hurt allies in the burst. If I took Pyromancy Master, I'd have to worry about my allies ending up in the fire zone.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 11:11AM #14
Hephalumph
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I'm sure I am missing something, but how is this 9x9? I only see it as 7x7...
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 11:42AM #15
rjsilverthorn
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Enlarge Spell, Resounding Thunder and the Master of Flame Lvl16 feature.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 12:38PM #16
AkumaBear
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I still cant conceptualize how you get it that big!

burst 1 = 3x3
burst 2=4x4 (enlarge)
Burst 3=5x5 (thunder)
burst 4=6x6 PP?

what  am I missing?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 12:42PM #17
Keithric
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Burst 2 = 5 x 5
Burst 3 = 7 x 7
Burst 4 = 9 x 9 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 12:43PM #18
Estethar
Date Joined: Jan 25, 2011
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burst 1 = 3x3 (center and one in every direction)
burst 2 = 5x5 (center and two in every direction)
burst 3 = 7x7 (center and three in every direction)
burst 4 = 9x9 (center and four in every direction)

ie: Every 0 below is within 4 of the X

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 12:44PM #19
rjsilverthorn
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Well a burst 2 isn't 4x4 its 5x5. 


 
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433333334
432222234
432111234
4321x1234
432111234
432222234 
433333334
444444444

Edit: Double ninja'd...but I had a better diagram! 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 12:48PM #20
Hephalumph
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Mar 26, 2012 -- 11:42AM, rjsilverthorn wrote:

Enlarge Spell, Resounding Thunder and the Master of Flame Lvl16 feature.



I was missing the master of flame feature...cool.

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