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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 5:17PM #1
zgrose
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PCs are 5-6 level 6s. The Beast is basically a Red Dragon with some Ettin features. The goal is to have a Standard difficulty encounter (it will be a solo Solo).

(edit: The ability scores may not line up exactly with the damage scores and I think I need to buff his armor. But I'm wondering about lethality.)

Thoughts?

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 13, 2012 - 9:25AM #2
dave2008
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Looks pretty good to me.  The only thing I would be concerned about is Frightful Presence.  Newer dragon designs have removed this ability and it could be real dangerous for a level 5-6 party.  If you want to keep it I would recommned reducing the attack bonus +7
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 13, 2012 - 4:03PM #3
zgrose
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Hmm. Perhaps lessening to a "Hit: The target is pushed 5 (3?)  squares" to get that WoW-like mass fear effect.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 13, 2012 - 7:13PM #4
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Mar 13, 2012 -- 4:03PM, zgrose wrote:

Hmm. Perhaps lessening to a "Hit: The target is pushed 5 (3?)  squares" to get that WoW-like mass fear effect.




That would work, you could add a conditioned liked dazed or weakended if you want it to be a little stronger

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 13, 2012 - 8:20PM #5
zgrose
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This monster isn't the centerpiece of the adventure so I don't want to throw the kitchen sink on him. I suspect with Double Actions he's already going to be the toughest thing they've battle in this dungeon, so far 

Thanks for the comments!
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 16, 2012 - 8:06PM #6
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There is never any reason to use Claw - it may as well be pulled off the statblock. Or make claw worthwhile;
- Miss damage, or
- Attacks two creatures, or
- Forced movement, or
- Knocks prone, or
- Something else appropriate for the creature I'm not familiar with 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 10:06AM #7
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Mar 16, 2012 -- 8:06PM, Reg06 wrote:

There is never any reason to use Claw - it may as well be pulled off the statblock. Or make claw worthwhile;
- Miss damage, or
- Attacks two creatures, or
- Forced movement, or
- Knocks prone, or
- Something else appropriate for the creature I'm not familiar with 





How about making it a minor attack 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 19, 2012 - 7:59PM #8
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I assume Claw's purpose is to be used when both jaws are occupied by happless morcels (heroes).


Personnally, I'd change the Frightful Presence to a Great Roar of some kind. Have it push all creatures by a massive amount (5+), deal thunder damage and be a minor action (to be followed by a charge !)


Stun is not fun.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 22, 2012 - 4:26PM #9
zgrose
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Claw was an artifiact of the dragon-ness (I believe the dragon could double attack with the claw) but this is superceded by the ettin-ness double initiative. I think Movanic has the right idea though, Claw when the jaws are occupied.

The current version has the Frightful Presence as a push 5 and keeps the -2 penalty (because you're afraid, of course). Stun can be very brutal indeed.

 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 26, 2012 - 7:02PM #10
zgrose
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When you roll low, issues of balance tend to be moot.

The comment was made that it felt like a core hound though, so I guess mission accomplished.

Now to go make Rend hopefully more of a challenge...  
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