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1 year ago ::
Mar 12, 2012 - 9:22AM
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My DM and I are disagreeing about the interpretation of the Cunning Stalker feat. He says he's willing to change his mind if I can find an official answer (more official than Customer Service, since he says they have been inconsistent in the past) from one of the designers of the game (or somebody else that works for WotC).
He believes it requires the character with the feat to be adjacent to the target, whereas I do not.
I have searched through the forums and website and found no answer that meets his requirements.
Is there such a response anywhere?
-K
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1 year ago ::
Mar 12, 2012 - 9:25AM
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You do not need to be adjacent to the target.
It may not have been intended to be that way, but that's not what it says.
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Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 12, 2012 - 7:46PM
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My DM does not agree with that interpretation, mellored, as he states that the intent of the designer was for it to work only on melee attacks.
A screenshot of a CS response was not enough to convince him, he's asking for a designer response. He also disregards forum consensus in this case, as well.
I may have to resign myself to being unable to easily obtain CA against flying or isolated enemies with ranged attacks.
I appreciate the reply, though, thank you! I makes me feel better, at least.
-K
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1 year ago ::
Mar 12, 2012 - 9:18PM
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Your DM is arguing RAI, RAW isn't going to sway him, regardless of the plain language in the feat. Developers only comment on ambiguous cases, there is no ambiguity here. /shrug.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 13, 2012 - 1:44AM
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My DM does not agree with that interpretation, mellored, as he states that the intent of the designer was for it to work only on melee attacks.
A screenshot of a CS response was not enough to convince him, he's asking for a designer response. He also disregards forum consensus in this case, as well.
I may have to resign myself to being unable to easily obtain CA against flying or isolated enemies with ranged attacks.
I appreciate the reply, though, thank you! I makes me feel better, at least.
-K
Hidden Sniper. Armor of Dark Deeds. Superior Reflexes. Done.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 13, 2012 - 5:27AM
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I feel kind of silly, forgot there was Hide in Plain sight at level 16. All problems with ranged flyers should evaporate with that utility.
Thank you very much for your time!
-K
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1 year ago ::
Mar 13, 2012 - 9:53AM
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My DM does not agree with that interpretation, mellored, as he states that the intent of the designer was for it to work only on melee attacks.
It's entirely possible he's right about "intent". He's also telling you, right out, that he doesn't care about what it says, he cares about what it's MEANT to say.
A screenshot of a CS response was not enough to convince him, he's asking for a designer response. He also disregards forum consensus in this case, as well.
Yup. And that's actually fair: He's telling you that, no matter what it *says*, in his game he's changing it until and unless the writer of the game comes to him and says "no, no, it really IS supposed to work the way Kharanax says".
Which is not a Rules Q&A question any more. Your question is now "My DM thinks the rule is dumb, what can I do?" and the answer to THAT is simply "nothing".
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1 year ago ::
Mar 13, 2012 - 7:20PM
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Which is not a Rules Q&A question any more. Your question is now "My DM thinks the rule is dumb, what can I do?" and the answer to THAT is simply "nothing".
...or find a new DM :D
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