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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 4:52PM #21
Atharron
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2011
Posts: 59
The Rules Compendium is the only part of the Essentials range I would consider to be essential. It is a handy quick reference guide for all the general rules of the game. Not 'needed' like the core books are, and, admittedly it is basically reprinting a lot of what is in those books, but as a reference guide it's a lot easier to carry around to the host's house than a load of hardbacks.

I would personally start by reading the player's guides (if you're going for the Essentials range then that'd be the Heroes Of... books). This will give you an introduction into being a player which is by far the easiest thing to do in DND. Once you understand that, then move on to reading the DM book to get the hang of actually running the game.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 6:50PM #22
CALEBROBERTS
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2010
Posts: 3,690
The Rules Compendium is the best rules rescources Wizards has put out.  If there is a rule in the game it is in that book.

I as well consider it the only essential book to have at the table.  I would never run a game without it again.

Start reading the DM book but also just jump in and start playing.  Learning the rules in a vacum only gets you so far.  The best way to really learn how they work is run a simple combat and make some mistakes. 
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Big John Barleycorn

Big John Barleycorn, Level 5
Human, Knight
Human Power Selection Option: Heroic Effort
Languages: Common, Dwarven
Theme: Mercenary

VITALS
AC: 25 Fort: 19 Ref: 15 Will: 17
HP: 38/54

Surges: 8/11
Surge Value: 13

Initiative: +8
Speed: 5

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 19, CON 15, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 15, CHA 8

[] Action Point
     Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +9, Endurance +7, Heal +9, Intimidate +8

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +0, Arcana +2, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering +4, History +2, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +2, Stealth +0, Streetwise +3, Thievery +0

POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
   Vicious Longsword +1: +12 vs AC, 1d8+6 damage
   Khopesh: +10 vs AC, 1d8+5 damage (Brutal 1)
Ranged Basic Attack
   Javelin (10/20): +10 vs AC, 1d6+5 damage

Minor Action
> Active < Knight Feature: Defender Aura
Knight Feature: Battle Guardian
> - < Fighter Utility: Defend the Line Stance
> - < Fighter Utility: Hammer Hands Stance
[] Level 2 Utility: Glowering Threat

No Action
[] Human Racial Power: Heroic Effort
[X] Mercenary Theme Power: Takedown Strike
[][] Attack Power: Power Strike

FEATS
Class Feat: Shield Finesse
Racial Bonus Feat: Master at Arms
Level 1: World Serpent's Grasp
Level 2: Improve Initiative
Level 4: Superior Will

ITEMS
Longsword +1
Khopesh
Shield of Protection
     [] Item Daily Power
Delver's Plate Armor +2
     [] Item Daily Power
Javelin x3
Adventurer's Kit
1 Opal
235g 172s 50c
Tsubasa Shou Show
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Tsubasa Shou, level 2
Human Euphoric Ardent
Theme: Windlord
Languages: Common, Elven
Origin: Elemental

VITALS
AC: 19 Fort: 16 Ref: 14 Will: 18
HP: 32/32
Power Points: [][]

Surges: 6/9
Surge Value: 8

Initiative: +2
Speed: 5

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 13, CON 15, DEX 13, INT 8, WIS 10, CHA 18

[X][ Action Point
      Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +9,  Diplomacy +10, Endurance +8, Heal +6, Intimidate +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Arcana +0, Bluff +5, Dungeoneering +1, History +0, Insight +1, Nature +1, Religion +0, Stealth +2, Streetwise +5, Thievery +2

POWERS

Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
     Greatspear: +7 vs AC, 1d10+2 damage
Human At-Will Attack  (Augment 0 only): Focusing Strike
At-Will Attack: Demoralizing Strike
At-Will Attack: Energizing Strike
[]Encounter Attack: Wind Fury Assault
[] Daily Attack: Battleborn Acuity

Move Action

Minor Action
[][] Encounter Utility: Ardent Surge

Immediate Reaction
[] Daily Utility: Healing Bond

No Action
[]Encounter Utility: Ardent Outrage

FEATS
Bonus Feat: Improved Defenses
Human bonus Feat: Polearm Expertise
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency: Greatspear
Level 2: Armor Proficiency: Scale

ITEMS
Magic Scale Armor +1
Flute
Silk Rope - 50 ft
Torch x2
Sunrod
Lantern
Oil (pint) x3
Tent
Bedroll
Backpack
Trail Rations x 10
Grappling Hook
Climber's Kit
Flint & Steel

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Reznik Callahan, Level 1
Human (Elf), Ranger/Druid
Languages: Common, Elven
Theme: Werewolf

CURRENT STATUS:

VITALS
AC: 17  Fort: 12  Ref: 15  Will: 14
HP: 25/25

Surges: 6/7
Surge Value: 6

Initiative: +4
Speed: 7

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 13, DEX 18, INT 8, WIS 18, CHA 11

[X][] Action Point
     Milestone: 2/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +4, Nature +13, Perception +11, Stealth +9

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana -1, Bluff +0, Diplomacy +0, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +0, Heal +4, History -1, Insight +4, Intimidate +2, Religion -1, Streetwise +0, Thievery +3

POWERS
Standard Action
At-Will Attack Twin Strike
At-Will Attack Savage Rend
At-Will Attack Wolf Shape Attack: Useable only in Wolf Form
[] Encounter Attack Two-Fanged Strike
[X] Daily Attack Sure Shot

Minor Action
At-Will Utility Hunter's Quarry
At-Will Utility Wild Shape
[] Encounter Utility Wolf Shape

Free Action
[X]Encounter Utility Elven Accuracy

FEATS
Level 1: Versatile Expertise
          Bow Expertise
          Totem Expertise

ITEMS
Longbow
Hide Armor
Short Sword
Totem
Cold Weather Clothing
Adventurer's Kit
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Bharhas, Level 3
Human, Warlord | Sorcerer
Human Power Selection Option: Bonus At-Will power
Languages: Common, Elven
Theme: Gladiator

CURRENT STATUS:
Phase of the Sun:
*At the start of your turn, each enemy adjacent to you takes fire and radiant damage equal to your Strength modifier.
*You also gain resist 5 cold.

VITALS
AC: 18 Fort: 18 Ref: 15 Will: 17
HP: 40/40

Surges: 6/6
Surge Value: 10

Initiative: +1
Speed: 6

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 10, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 8, CHA 17

[] Action Point
     Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +8, Bluff +9, Diplomacy +9, Intimidate +9

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics -1, Arcana +1,  Dungeoneering +0, Endurance -1, Heal +0, History +1, Insight +0, Nature +0, Perception +0, Religion +1, Stealth -1, Streetwise +4, Thievery -1

POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
   Longsword : +9 vs AC, 1d8+5 damage
   Katar: +9 vs AC, 1d6+4 damage
Warlord Attack: Wolf Pack Tactics
Warlord Attack: Viper's Strike
Sorcerer Attack: Storm Walk
[] Gladiator Theme Attack: Disrupting Advance
[] Level 1 Warlord Attack: Diabolic Stratagem
[] Level 1 Sorcerer Attack: Cosmos Call

Minor Action
[] Level 2 Warlord Utility: Shake It Off
[] Level 3 Sorcerer Attack: Lightning Cuts
[] Warlord Feature: Inspiring Word

Free Action
Dark Sun Arcane Feature: Arcane Defiling

No Action
[] Warlord Feature: Battlefront Shift

FEATS
Racial Bonus Feat: Mastery of Knives
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Sorcerous Blade Channeling 

ITEMS
Longsword
Katar
Cloth Armor of Sudden Recovery +1
     [] Item Daily Power
Heavy Shield
Cloak of Distortion
Adventurer's Kit
Survival Day x10
427g
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 8:14PM #23
Stefann
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2012
Posts: 101
Cool.
Ordered the rules compendium from amazon.
Have 5 components. Will play this weekend!
Any tips for DMing before our session?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 8:26PM #24
CALEBROBERTS
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2010
Posts: 3,690
Keep your story simple and have your maps pre-drawn.  I know when I was just starting out I was always pausing to draw things and it really seemd to interrupt focus for my brand new group.  As you get better at DMing you will get better at "winging it"

Also, reisist the tempation to launch into some sort of mega, long-running campaign from the start.  As you and your player's learn how the game works what you want out of it may change and mutate, this is good.

If you are running a pre-published adventure, try to get to know it fairly well.  You don't need to memorize it but it would be good to know the crucial information that needs to be imparted to the players at each scene.  I recommend making it easy for them to follow the story so they stay interested.

One last thing, your first combats will take a very long time.  There is little you can do to mitigate this as you learn the system.  Don't expect to get very far.

And the most important piece...HAVE FUN.  That is the reason (I hope) you are getting into D&D.  If you or your players are not haveing fun, see what you all can do to make it better. 
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Big John Barleycorn Show
Big John Barleycorn

Big John Barleycorn, Level 5
Human, Knight
Human Power Selection Option: Heroic Effort
Languages: Common, Dwarven
Theme: Mercenary

VITALS
AC: 25 Fort: 19 Ref: 15 Will: 17
HP: 38/54

Surges: 8/11
Surge Value: 13

Initiative: +8
Speed: 5

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 19, CON 15, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 15, CHA 8

[] Action Point
     Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +9, Endurance +7, Heal +9, Intimidate +8

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +0, Arcana +2, Bluff +1, Diplomacy +1, Dungeoneering +4, History +2, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +2, Stealth +0, Streetwise +3, Thievery +0

POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
   Vicious Longsword +1: +12 vs AC, 1d8+6 damage
   Khopesh: +10 vs AC, 1d8+5 damage (Brutal 1)
Ranged Basic Attack
   Javelin (10/20): +10 vs AC, 1d6+5 damage

Minor Action
> Active < Knight Feature: Defender Aura
Knight Feature: Battle Guardian
> - < Fighter Utility: Defend the Line Stance
> - < Fighter Utility: Hammer Hands Stance
[] Level 2 Utility: Glowering Threat

No Action
[] Human Racial Power: Heroic Effort
[X] Mercenary Theme Power: Takedown Strike
[][] Attack Power: Power Strike

FEATS
Class Feat: Shield Finesse
Racial Bonus Feat: Master at Arms
Level 1: World Serpent's Grasp
Level 2: Improve Initiative
Level 4: Superior Will

ITEMS
Longsword +1
Khopesh
Shield of Protection
     [] Item Daily Power
Delver's Plate Armor +2
     [] Item Daily Power
Javelin x3
Adventurer's Kit
1 Opal
235g 172s 50c
Tsubasa Shou Show
Tsubasa Shou iplay4e link

Tsubasa Shou, level 2
Human Euphoric Ardent
Theme: Windlord
Languages: Common, Elven
Origin: Elemental

VITALS
AC: 19 Fort: 16 Ref: 14 Will: 18
HP: 32/32
Power Points: [][]

Surges: 6/9
Surge Value: 8

Initiative: +2
Speed: 5

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 13, CON 15, DEX 13, INT 8, WIS 10, CHA 18

[X][ Action Point
      Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +9,  Diplomacy +10, Endurance +8, Heal +6, Intimidate +10

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Arcana +0, Bluff +5, Dungeoneering +1, History +0, Insight +1, Nature +1, Religion +0, Stealth +2, Streetwise +5, Thievery +2

POWERS

Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
     Greatspear: +7 vs AC, 1d10+2 damage
Human At-Will Attack  (Augment 0 only): Focusing Strike
At-Will Attack: Demoralizing Strike
At-Will Attack: Energizing Strike
[]Encounter Attack: Wind Fury Assault
[] Daily Attack: Battleborn Acuity

Move Action

Minor Action
[][] Encounter Utility: Ardent Surge

Immediate Reaction
[] Daily Utility: Healing Bond

No Action
[]Encounter Utility: Ardent Outrage

FEATS
Bonus Feat: Improved Defenses
Human bonus Feat: Polearm Expertise
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency: Greatspear
Level 2: Armor Proficiency: Scale

ITEMS
Magic Scale Armor +1
Flute
Silk Rope - 50 ft
Torch x2
Sunrod
Lantern
Oil (pint) x3
Tent
Bedroll
Backpack
Trail Rations x 10
Grappling Hook
Climber's Kit
Flint & Steel

0 g - 0 s - 0 c
Reznik Callahan Show
iPlay4e link

Reznik Callahan, Level 1
Human (Elf), Ranger/Druid
Languages: Common, Elven
Theme: Werewolf

CURRENT STATUS:

VITALS
AC: 17  Fort: 12  Ref: 15  Will: 14
HP: 25/25

Surges: 6/7
Surge Value: 6

Initiative: +4
Speed: 7

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 13, DEX 18, INT 8, WIS 18, CHA 11

[X][] Action Point
     Milestone: 2/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +4, Nature +13, Perception +11, Stealth +9

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana -1, Bluff +0, Diplomacy +0, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +0, Heal +4, History -1, Insight +4, Intimidate +2, Religion -1, Streetwise +0, Thievery +3

POWERS
Standard Action
At-Will Attack Twin Strike
At-Will Attack Savage Rend
At-Will Attack Wolf Shape Attack: Useable only in Wolf Form
[] Encounter Attack Two-Fanged Strike
[X] Daily Attack Sure Shot

Minor Action
At-Will Utility Hunter's Quarry
At-Will Utility Wild Shape
[] Encounter Utility Wolf Shape

Free Action
[X]Encounter Utility Elven Accuracy

FEATS
Level 1: Versatile Expertise
          Bow Expertise
          Totem Expertise

ITEMS
Longbow
Hide Armor
Short Sword
Totem
Cold Weather Clothing
Adventurer's Kit
Bharhas Show
iplay4e sheet

Bharhas, Level 3
Human, Warlord | Sorcerer
Human Power Selection Option: Bonus At-Will power
Languages: Common, Elven
Theme: Gladiator

CURRENT STATUS:
Phase of the Sun:
*At the start of your turn, each enemy adjacent to you takes fire and radiant damage equal to your Strength modifier.
*You also gain resist 5 cold.

VITALS
AC: 18 Fort: 18 Ref: 15 Will: 17
HP: 40/40

Surges: 6/6
Surge Value: 10

Initiative: +1
Speed: 6

CURRENT ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 10, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 8, CHA 17

[] Action Point
     Milestone: 1/2
[] Second Wind

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +8, Bluff +9, Diplomacy +9, Intimidate +9

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics -1, Arcana +1,  Dungeoneering +0, Endurance -1, Heal +0, History +1, Insight +0, Nature +0, Perception +0, Religion +1, Stealth -1, Streetwise +4, Thievery -1

POWERS
Standard Action
Melee Basic Attack
   Longsword : +9 vs AC, 1d8+5 damage
   Katar: +9 vs AC, 1d6+4 damage
Warlord Attack: Wolf Pack Tactics
Warlord Attack: Viper's Strike
Sorcerer Attack: Storm Walk
[] Gladiator Theme Attack: Disrupting Advance
[] Level 1 Warlord Attack: Diabolic Stratagem
[] Level 1 Sorcerer Attack: Cosmos Call

Minor Action
[] Level 2 Warlord Utility: Shake It Off
[] Level 3 Sorcerer Attack: Lightning Cuts
[] Warlord Feature: Inspiring Word

Free Action
Dark Sun Arcane Feature: Arcane Defiling

No Action
[] Warlord Feature: Battlefront Shift

FEATS
Racial Bonus Feat: Mastery of Knives
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Sorcerous Blade Channeling 

ITEMS
Longsword
Katar
Cloth Armor of Sudden Recovery +1
     [] Item Daily Power
Heavy Shield
Cloak of Distortion
Adventurer's Kit
Survival Day x10
427g
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 9:29PM #25
Stefann
Date Joined: Mar 11, 2012
Posts: 101
wicked.
very stoked to get started =D
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 14, 2012 - 3:09PM #26
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Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:14PM, Stefann wrote:

Cool.
Ordered the rules compendium from amazon.
Have 5 components. Will play this weekend!
Any tips for DMing before our session?




When in doubt, kill the wizard!



No, just kidding. 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 14, 2012 - 4:47PM #27
Litmus
Date Joined: May 7, 2011
Posts: 394
I think you've ended up with a pretty solid set of books to get started with.  A few ideas for where to go from here:

1. Listen to at least the first four podcasts from Series 1 of the Penny Arcade series here: www.wizards.com/dnd/podcasts.aspx  You'll learn a huge amount about how to play the game and how to be a good DM in the process, and they're pretty funny too.
2. Read through your Rules Compendium or at least the How to Play section of one of the 'Heroes of..' books.
3. Play through a combat or two by yourself.  Even if it's just throwing a few monsters up against each other.  You'll learn much more effectively from playing than you will from reading - and it's more fun.
4. Pay for a 1 month DDI subscription and download an adventure or two to get your players to level 2; then run the adventure in the DM's Kit from there.  You can also use the character builder to make character sheets for your players that will make learning the game easier.

Good luck  
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