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Mar 9, 2012 -- 7:19PM, BRJN wrote:

You might want to replace Skill Training: Perception with some multiclass feat that allows you to train Perception, plus give you some neat feature in addition.  (For instance, MC Warden and get a one-turn mark.)

It looks like you will have to be an off-tank (take turns with the barbarian) so look into things that make you harder to bring down.

You want powers that let your friends (especially the barbarian) take an MBA on your turn.

Get a look at MP1 and MP2; there are more "give your friends a basic attack" powers there than in the PH series.  If the Wizard has Magic Missile, THAT qualifies as a basic attack, hint hint. *

You also want to coordinate some simple battle plans with your friends.  For instance, the turn when you ran into a crowd and multi-marked them all is the turn when the Rogue should come in and CLOBBER somebody; the enemies won't be able to hit his squishy self back.

* My son has a Warlord and I have a Warlock.  We made sure beforehand that he has at least one "a basic attack" worded power (vs "a melee basic attack"), so he can call on my RBA Eldritch Blast when needful.  Other than that, I try NOT to tell him how to build his character; he's the one who has to enjoy playing it.

Thanks. The wizard didn't take MM though sadly. I will definitely grab up the Martial Powers books and see what I can find that will keep me fighting the way I need, and keep it fun.

I have been using Wolf Pack to move the barb into CA or closer to help defend the front line. I plan on taking scale armor to make me tougher and maybe a fort, reflex, or will feat to increase those if needed. I'll definitely look into multi-classing, since I know little about it and how helpful it may turn out.

Apr 2, 2012 -- 12:21AM, Ed_Warlord wrote:

Mar 7, 2012 -- 12:59PM, Kn1ght_Steve31 wrote:

STR   19 
CON  13
DEX   10
INT   13
WIS  12
CHA  15

HP: 35/17/10 & 9 surges per day
AC: 19 (11 +7 armour, +1 veteran's chain enhancement)
FORT: 16 (11 +4 Str, +1 class)
REF:  13 (11 +2 Int, +1 misc)
WILL: 14 (11 +2 Cha, +1 class)

Starting with a 19 STR is 'expensive.'  If you took it down to 18 (16 pre-dragonborn bonus), and dropped the 13 INT, you could have a 14 CON, 12 DEX, and 16 CHA.  You'd have

HP:  36/18/11 & 10 surges
AC/FORT: same
REF: same (but +1 initiative by going for DEX instead of INT)
WILL: 15

And your Furious Smash would be more worthwhile, giving a +3 hit/dam instead of +2, and your Inspiring Presence better, too.

You could also improve your AC and REF by using a shield.

I'll definitely look into multi-classing, since I know little about it and how helpful it may turn out.

The thing about multiclassing to get trained Perception isn't because multi-classing will be terribly helpful to your build, it's just effectively 'free' compared to taking the Skill Training feat.


Finally, as you're in a defender-less party, you might consider Battlefront Leader, an alternative to Combat Leader (that +2 initiative bonus you grant).  It gives you heavy sheild proficiency, and you can take a feat to get scale proficiency /and/ an extra healing surge.   

It's been two sessions (we play every other week) and my build has improved some since level two. So far no TPKs, and we managed to survive some pretty heavy battles. Here's how the build looks now at level 4.
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Apr 2, 2012 -- 1:48PM, TheMalteseFalchion wrote:

The bard (or skald) multiclass feats will give you access to Perception training AND an extra daily heal.

I would also suggest an Expertise feat to increase your chance to hit.  Many Warlord riders only take effect on the hit, so missing is especially bad for you.  Grab a +3 proficiency weapon (longsword, etc.) to really get your hit ratio up.

I take the bard multi-class --> I get Perception training and Majestic Word for free. What else do I have to do for multi-classing? Is it going to affect my spells/exploits that I've got and/or have planned out in the future?

Apr 2, 2012 -- 2:45PM, TheMalteseFalchion wrote:

Nope, you'll still qualify for all the Warlord goodies you wanted.  But now you've also got access to some Bard feats and Paragon Paths, granted, those might not be all that useful to you.  Since Bards are Arcane, you've also got access to feats with a prequisite of an Arcane class.  Again, might not be useful to you or your build. 

Under normal circumstances, you do get only 1 multi-class though, so plan accordingly.

That's sweet. So I take out my Skill Training feat, pick up Bardic Dillentante and bam multi-class? I guess I was thinking of hybrids where you have to alternate skills from the two classes you use. I'll be letting my DM know that I'm going to multi-class. 

Are there any +3 hammers, or a way to increase my "to hit" with them? I was going to go with Bastard Sword expertise feat, but I like bludgeoning people to death. If swords are better, I'll be figuring out a way to change my current weapon to one with my DM.