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1 year ago  ::  Mar 08, 2012 - 11:35AM #11
atuthaj
Date Joined: Sep 26, 2009
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Mar 7, 2012 -- 8:40AM, warrl wrote:

IF

a) You have all your ducks in a row so that you should be able to make use of the shard

AND

b) The Character Builder handles it correctly

THEN

you can apply the shard by customizing the item it modifies.

However, shards are known to be an area where the Character Builder isn't currently reliable.  




yes but how does the CB 'handle it"? is there a way your suppose to epuip it? or is it just active by being on your person?
 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 09, 2012 - 1:38AM #12
RisingZan
Date Joined: Aug 20, 2003
Posts: 759

Mar 8, 2012 -- 11:35AM, atuthaj wrote:

Mar 7, 2012 -- 8:40AM, warrl wrote:

IF

a) You have all your ducks in a row so that you should be able to make use of the shard

AND

b) The Character Builder handles it correctly

THEN

you can apply the shard by customizing the item it modifies.

However, shards are known to be an area where the Character Builder isn't currently reliable.  




yes but how does the CB 'handle it"? is there a way your suppose to epuip it? or is it just active by being on your person?
 


From what I can tell, right now the CB doesn't "handle it", much like many other special rules.  You'll have to add the +1 damage to your implement powers with the shard augmented dagger manually until the unlikely even that they fix it.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 09, 2012 - 7:21AM #13
mellored
Date Joined: Jul 8, 2008
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The CB does shards.  (as of 2-3 months ago.)

Buy the dagger. 
Buy the shard.
Go to your inventory.
Click on the dagger.
Click "customize".
Attach the shard.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 09, 2012 - 7:32AM #14
Mand12
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Wow, that's an amazingly obscure and not-well-publicized change.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 09, 2012 - 7:55AM #15
RisingZan
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Mar 9, 2012 -- 7:21AM, mellored wrote:

The CB does shards.  (as of 2-3 months ago.)

Buy the dagger. 
Buy the shard.
Go to your inventory.
Click on the dagger.
Click "customize".
Attach the shard.


I tried doing that (I assumed that was what the Augment field was for), but it wouldn't let me apply the shard to anything.  I tried adding additional weapons to the equipment list and the shard would not appear in the Augments list.

I guess I"ll have to try it again later.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 09, 2012 - 4:09PM #16
atuthaj
Date Joined: Sep 26, 2009
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Mar 9, 2012 -- 7:21AM, mellored wrote:

The CB does shards.  (as of 2-3 months ago.)

Buy the dagger. 
Buy the shard.
Go to your inventory.
Click on the dagger.
Click "customize".
Attach the shard.




WOW! it DOES work! REALLY great find! Thanks a lot! All Questions Answered, thanks everybody!

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