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1. Would using a accurate dagger prevent the dmg bonus of a Siberys Dragonshard of the Mage?

2. Why is it there are no magical combination of accurate daggers in the compendium and CB? can they not be enchanted??

thanks

1: No.

2: Accurate Daggers can be enchanted just fine.

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It is just unnecessary to put them up, because any enchantment, that can be put on a normal dagger also can be put on Accurate daggers.
So since Accurate daggers are a subset of daggers the distinction would just bloat anything even more.

There might be another way, but I know you can create magical superior implements in the character builder by going into the "Marketplace" section.  Just use the pulldowns to filter to accurate dagger and then select your enchantment.

Note that an 'accurate dagger' is of the type 'superior implement', not 'simple one-handed'.

I just confirmed they are in the CB, but you can only see them if you have the appropriate feat on the character or you deselect "Show Suggested Items".  Then, in the Weapons section of the Marketplace, change the Category filter on the top from Implements to Superior Implements.  The item filter will then automatically switch to the type you have the feat for (i.e. Accurate Dagger) if Suggested Items is checked, and you can select which enchantment you want.

Mar 4, 2012 -- 9:48AM, RisingZan wrote:

I just confirmed they are in the CB, but you can only see them if you have the appropriate feat on the character or you deselect "Show Suggested Items".  Then, in the Weapons section of the Marketplace, change the Category filter on the top from Implements to Superior Implements.  The item filter will then automatically switch to the type you have the feat for (i.e. Accurate Dagger) if Suggested Items is checked, and you can select which enchantment you want.

You have no idea how much this has helped me. I finally was able to make this work. But My 1st question remains. Isn't the accurate dagger an impliment? An the siberys shard of the mage says you have to be using a "weapon" as an impliment. Does the Accurate dagger count as a weapon? Also do you equip it or does it just take effect automatically?

Mar 5, 2012 -- 4:22PM, atuthaj wrote:

Mar 4, 2012 -- 9:48AM, RisingZan wrote:

I just confirmed they are in the CB, but you can only see them if you have the appropriate feat on the character or you deselect "Show Suggested Items".  Then, in the Weapons section of the Marketplace, change the Category filter on the top from Implements to Superior Implements.  The item filter will then automatically switch to the type you have the feat for (i.e. Accurate Dagger) if Suggested Items is checked, and you can select which enchantment you want.

You have no idea how much this has helped me. I finally was able to make this work. But My 1st question remains. Isn't the accurate dagger an impliment? An the siberys shard of the mage says you have to be using a "weapon" as an impliment. Does the Accurate dagger count as a weapon? Also do you equip it or does it just take effect automatically?

If you don't have the SIP feat, an accurate dagger is a normal implement of that type... which means it is a dagger. It never stops being a dagger.

Mar 5, 2012 -- 4:22PM, atuthaj wrote:

Mar 4, 2012 -- 9:48AM, RisingZan wrote:

I just confirmed they are in the CB, but you can only see them if you have the appropriate feat on the character or you deselect "Show Suggested Items".  Then, in the Weapons section of the Marketplace, change the Category filter on the top from Implements to Superior Implements.  The item filter will then automatically switch to the type you have the feat for (i.e. Accurate Dagger) if Suggested Items is checked, and you can select which enchantment you want.

You have no idea how much this has helped me. I finally was able to make this work. But My 1st question remains. Isn't the accurate dagger an impliment? An the siberys shard of the mage says you have to be using a "weapon" as an impliment. Does the Accurate dagger count as a weapon? Also do you equip it or does it just take effect automatically?

I'm not exactly sure how the Siberys Shards get applied in the CB.  They are separate from weapon/implement enchantments.  I tried adding it through the Customize button -> Augment on both the shard and on various weapons, but to no avail.
  Unless someone else knows a trick to applying dragonshards in the builder, I think you'll just have to declare which weapon you've attached it to and manually add the +1 damage.

IF

a) You have all your ducks in a row so that you should be able to make use of the shard

AND

b) The Character Builder handles it correctly

THEN

you can apply the shard by customizing the item it modifies.

However, shards are known to be an area where the Character Builder isn't currently reliable.  

Mar 7, 2012 -- 8:40AM, warrl wrote:

IF

a) You have all your ducks in a row so that you should be able to make use of the shard

AND

b) The Character Builder handles it correctly

THEN

you can apply the shard by customizing the item it modifies.

However, shards are known to be an area where the Character Builder isn't currently reliable.  

yes but how does the CB 'handle it"? is there a way your suppose to epuip it? or is it just active by being on your person?
 

Mar 8, 2012 -- 11:35AM, atuthaj wrote:

Mar 7, 2012 -- 8:40AM, warrl wrote:

IF

a) You have all your ducks in a row so that you should be able to make use of the shard

AND

b) The Character Builder handles it correctly

THEN

you can apply the shard by customizing the item it modifies.

However, shards are known to be an area where the Character Builder isn't currently reliable.  

yes but how does the CB 'handle it"? is there a way your suppose to epuip it? or is it just active by being on your person?
 

From what I can tell, right now the CB doesn't "handle it", much like many other special rules.  You'll have to add the +1 damage to your implement powers with the shard augmented dagger manually until the unlikely even that they fix it.

The CB does shards.  (as of 2-3 months ago.)

Buy the dagger. 
Buy the shard.
Go to your inventory.
Click on the dagger.
Click "customize".
Attach the shard.

Wow, that's an amazingly obscure and not-well-publicized change.

Nice find.

Mar 9, 2012 -- 7:21AM, mellored wrote:

The CB does shards.  (as of 2-3 months ago.)

Buy the dagger. 
Buy the shard.
Go to your inventory.
Click on the dagger.
Click "customize".
Attach the shard.

I tried doing that (I assumed that was what the Augment field was for), but it wouldn't let me apply the shard to anything.  I tried adding additional weapons to the equipment list and the shard would not appear in the Augments list.

I guess I"ll have to try it again later.

Mar 9, 2012 -- 7:21AM, mellored wrote:

The CB does shards.  (as of 2-3 months ago.)

Buy the dagger. 
Buy the shard.
Go to your inventory.
Click on the dagger.
Click "customize".
Attach the shard.

WOW! it DOES work! REALLY great find! Thanks a lot! All Questions Answered, thanks everybody!