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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 3:02AM
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Oct 28, 2010
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Hey everyone,
sorry in advance for the noob question, but I heard that if a magic item is thrown (such as a magic dagger) during combat, it magically returns to the weilder, is that true?
thanks for your help!
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 5:00AM
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Jul 22, 2008
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Yes.
"Any magic light thrown or heavy thrown weapon automatically returns to its wielder's hand after a ranged attack with the weapon is resolved." (HotFL 346)
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 5:00AM
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Feb 12, 2012
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That's right, all magic thrown weapons return to the wielder after throwing, regardless of its level, kind of enhancement.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 6:33AM
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Jul 22, 2008
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Remember, though, that this only applies to ranged attacks. Magical thrown weapons do not return to your hand with close or area attacks.
(Those are the rules as written, but it's a common house rule to allow them to return for close and area attacks as well.)
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 7:58AM
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Also, the magic weapon must have the light thrown or heavy thrown property, or be enchanted with an effect that gives it that property. If you throw your +1 Fullblade, it isn't coming back.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 8:58AM
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great, thanks everyone, that clears it up!
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 9:50AM
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Remember, though, that this only applies to ranged attacks. Magical thrown weapons do not return to your hand with close or area attacks.
(Those are the rules as written, but it's a common house rule to allow them to return for close and area attacks as well.)
Per WotC's FAQ:
"13. I am using a magical thrown weapon as part of an area of effect power. If I am attacking multiple enemies within that area, do I need multiple weapons, or will one suffice? One is enough in this case. Magical thrown weapons return to you after each attack, so you’ll be able to use it against each enemy as part of using your power."
(note: WotC has previously stated that for 4e, their FAQ counts as a rules source and they will stand behind it).
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 10:04AM
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Jul 22, 2008
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(note: WotC has previously stated that for 4e, their FAQ counts as a rules source and they will stand behind it).
I'm not sure where you're getting that impression from.
The FAQ is created by Customer Support. It is frequently wrong, subject to change without notice, and no more reliable than Customer Support itself.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 10:43AM
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(note: WotC has previously stated that for 4e, their FAQ counts as a rules source and they will stand behind it).
I'm not sure where you're getting that impression from.
From WotC; they stated it outright early on in 4e (discussed here).
The FAQ is created by Customer Support.
WotC stated that they go to the developers themselves for the FAQ answers (and that Cust Serv has regular access to the developers).
It is frequently wrong, subject to change without notice, and no more reliable than Customer Support itself.
You might be thinking of the general opinion of the 3e FAQ's (mostly because, in the absence of frequent errata, it contained a lot of answers, so it invariably contained something any given player didn't agree with). The WotC 4e FAQ's have been pretty stable though (indeed, possibly out of date even), and WotC's treats them as official. No worries though; it's perfectly ok if you don't acknowledge the WotC FAQ as an official supplement, but WotC, the RPGA, and the majority of players do.
The returning weapon topic is discussed here, if desired.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 29, 2012 - 10:57AM
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Jul 22, 2008
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The WotC 4e FAQ's have been pretty stable though (indeed, possibly out of date even),
Just because some questions haven't been updated in a while doesn't mean they're right. For example, take a look at PH FAQ #26:
Q: For the Blood Mage Paragon Path, how often can you damage an opponent using the Bolstering Blood feature?
A: You can damage an opponent once per turn and once per power.
This answer has never been supported by any rulebook.
it's perfectly ok if you don't acknowledge the FAQ as an official supplement, but WotC, the RPGA, and the majority of players do.
I acknowledge the FAQ as a supplement, but not as RAW. Rules As Written means published documents by WotC only -- rulebooks, official update documents, and Dungeon and Dragon magazine articles.
And by the way, since it comes from Customer Support, the FAQ is not a primary rules source for LFR either. Who, if anybody, Customer Support consults to get their answers is irrelevant.
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