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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 8:25AM #11
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
Posts: 16,524
Darkvision simply let you see regardless of light. Since it doesn't say it is restricted to black & white only, colors are  still perceived as normal.

Unless noted otherwise, the range of any of your senses goes up to as far as your sight can reach. If a Radius number is given, than this sense extend up to the given Range only and must rely on normal sense beyond it.

RC 168 Darkvision: A creature that has Darkvision can see normally regardless of light. It ignores Concealment that is a result of dim light or darkness.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 10, 2012 - 10:46AM #12
Salla
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2003
Posts: 23,524

Mar 10, 2012 -- 7:23AM, Bethregor wrote:

Hi,

It's me again

I've got another question.

How does the Darkvision work?
PC is seeing everything perfectly like on sunny day or everything is black & white ? Also, what's with it's range? I know there are several feats that are giving a darkvision with some range but how does it works with Assasins Paragon Feat (no range given) or Drows?

Thanks for answers  




You see in color, since nothing says otherwise.

If no range is given, then the range is 'as far as you can normally see'.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 3:52AM #13
Bethregor
Date Joined: Feb 18, 2012
Posts: 11
I've got another problem.

Let me explain.
I've got 12th lvl Haxblade. I want to give him a chainmail-class armor. While I'm putting on him "simple" chainmail +3 he have 33 AC, but when I'm giving him Braidmail Armor +3 he have 5 AC less.

Chainmail have Base +6 AC and Braidmail have +8 AC.

IMO this AC should be +2 AC higher.

Can someone explain this ? 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 4:36AM #14
MarkB
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Date Joined: Jul 7, 2004
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Mar 17, 2012 -- 3:52AM, Bethregor wrote:

I've got another problem.

Let me explain.
I've got 12th lvl Haxblade. I want to give him a chainmail-class armor. While I'm putting on him "simple" chainmail +3 he have 33 AC, but when I'm giving him Braidmail Armor +3 he have 5 AC less.

Chainmail have Base +6 AC and Braidmail have +8 AC.

IMO this AC should be +2 AC higher.

Can someone explain this ? 



The Character Builder has, on occasion, had trouble calculating armour values for masterwork armours. I thought that issue had been fixed, but perhaps not.

Make sure there are no proficiency issues, but aside from that, trust your own AC calculations over those of the Character Builder. 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 5:47AM #15
Bethregor
Date Joined: Feb 18, 2012
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I truly don't understand it.

Base - 10
Half-level - 6
Feat (with Rod) - 1
Ability - 5
Chainmail - 6 / Braidmail - 8
Enhancement - 3

 Chainmail +3 - 29 AC / Braidmail +3 - 31

And character builder says:

Chainmail - 33 AC / Braidmail - 28 AC ;/ 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 10:27AM #16
LordOfWeasels
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2009
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Mar 17, 2012 -- 5:47AM, Bethregor wrote:

I truly don't understand it.

Base - 10
Half-level - 6
Feat (with Rod) - 1

Ability - 5


Chainmail - 6 / Braidmail - 8
Enhancement - 3

 Chainmail +3 - 29 AC / Braidmail +3 - 31

And character builder says:

Chainmail - 33 AC / Braidmail - 28 AC ;/ 




Emphasis mine:  Chainmail is heavy armor.  It does not let you add an Ability score.

If you have a Dex or Int of 20, you're probably better off in Hide than in Chain.

(If the builder is giving you your dex bonus while in Chain, that's a different problem.)

Confused about Stealth?  Think "invisibility" means "take the mini off the board to make people guess?"  You need to check out The Rules Of Hidden Club.

Damage types and resistances:  A working house rule.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 10:46AM #17
RedSiegfried
Date Joined: Dec 10, 2008
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Chainmail +3 and Braidmail +3 are both 11-15 level armors so they should both grant a +8 armor bonus and a +3 enhancement bonus for a total of +11.  If you don't get the +5 due to your ability while wearing heavy armor then your AC should be 28 all the time whether you're wearing chain +3 or braidmail +3.

If the CB is telling you that equiping chainmail lets you get the +5 then something is buggy there.

Is there some game element that lets you get a DEX or INT bonus to AC while wearing chain that I'm not aware of?
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 3:43PM #18
Bethregor
Date Joined: Feb 18, 2012
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OK.. I've realized that CB is giving me a +5 ability score ONLY with normal armors: chainmail, scale armor and plate armor.
Any other heavy armors don't do that (Forgemail, Wyrmscale, Layerde Plate Armor etc.).

As you said, there are two ways:

1. Something is buggy.
2. I have something that gives me ability score with chainmail, which I don't even know what it is.

So, should I trust CB and take chainmail to have 33 AC or braidmail to have 28 ??
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 4:11PM #19
Newanda
Date Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Posts: 162
no, unless there is something you aren't telling us, you do not get the +5 ability modifier with any heavy armor.  If CB is giving it to you, that is a bug, and is wrong.  Your AC would be 28, not 33, no matter what CB prints out.

As others have said, with that high of a dex or int stat, you are probably better with Hide armor than chain, but that is your choice.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 17, 2012 - 4:12PM #20
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 The character builder is not a rules source - sometimes it's wrong. Add it up yourself and use your own calculations.

 There's almost certainly a bug in the character builder...

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