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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 7:22AM
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OK so I've been trying to make a Ranged Pixie Leader for my friend and Skald seemed pretty cool (The Aura seems pretty awesome) but Leader's aren't really my thing so I don't really know how to make a good one so I figure I'd ask here (also open to other classes)
She wants three things Healer, Ranged & Pixie everything else is optional.
So some background....the group isn't decided exactly but their fairly predictable
1 - Defender - Dragonborn or Genasi
2 - Striker
3 - Controller - Gnome Mage Enchanter/Illusionist (Me)
4 - Leader - Ranged Healer Pixie (This one)
5 - First timer - Wild Card likely Striker
Feel free to tear it apart or offer alternatives...nothing too complicated though she's fairly new to the game...actually the sad part is I'm the most expereinced and I've only been playing 4e for just over a year and played 3.5e during for a short while in high school (Not a very Geek heavy area)
Anyways here's what I came up with (feel free to give suggestions on later levels as well)..oh and stats will be rolled but I'm using an Array for now...also starting level is yet to be determined
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Unnamed, level 1
Pixie, Skald
Signs of Influence: Travel in Style
Signs of Influence: Demand Audience
Background: Assassin (Assassin Benefit)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 11, Dex 18, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 18.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 8, Con 11, Dex 16, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 16.
AC: 16 Fort: 10 Reflex: 15 Will: 15
HP: 23 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 5
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +6, Streetwise +9, Stealth +11, Acrobatics +8, Diplomacy +9
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Bluff +5, Dungeoneering +2, Endurance, Heal +2, History +1, Insight +2, Intimidate +5, Nature +4, Perception +2, Religion +1, Thievery +4, Athletics -1
FEATS
Level 1: Teeny Target
POWERS
Master of Story and Song: Stirring Shout
Skald at-will 1: Bolstering Speech
Skald at-will 1: Staggering Note
Skald encounter 1: Lesser Flash of Distraction
Skald daily 1: Disruptive Words
ITEMS
Chainmail, Adventurer's Kit, Dagger (2)
====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======
Note: Our DM and group are fairly open to screwing around so having a Pixie riding around on the gnome wizard or a hawk would probably go by just fine...I think it's termed "Cheese" here?
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 7:50AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 21, 2006
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You will get so much more mileage out of being an "O-Bard" (the PHB2/AP Bard) than the Skald if you want to be Ranged. The fact that you lose Multiclass Versatility from being a Skald is huge, especially since you lose potential power options from not being able to add Wizard/Invoker/Seeker powers all at once (though I don't know if you're open to worshipping Sehanine so that you don't have implement problems with Invoker and Wizard powers you'd gain from multiclassing into them).
Note: Our DM and group are fairly open to screwing around so having a Pixie riding around on the gnome wizard or a hawk would probably go by just fine...I think it's termed "Cheese" here?
Not quite. Cheese is basically a simple combo (like "Frostcheese", with two feats and sometimes one enchantment) that gives a ridiculously strong benefit that's easy to exploit.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 8:32AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 19, 2010
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I'd been fooling around with a Pixie Version of the "Killswitch" build. Artificer Warlord, take a crossbow, take Beastmaster theme, ride on the Hawk. Start combat on the hawk with the hawk perched on someones shoulder, shoot magic weapon for the buf to allies, launch the hawk, use reorient the axis to move allies, etc. etc. Here's the Level 1 start.
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
PixArtLord, level 1
Pixie, Artificer/Warlord
Hybrid Artificer Option: Hybrid Artificer Will
Warlord Leadership Option: Combat Leader (Hybrid)
Hybrid Warlord Option: Hybrid Warlord Fortitude
Animal Master Starting Feature Option: Hawk
Auspicious Birth (Auspicious Birth Benefit)
Theme: Animal Master
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 8, CON 12, DEX 10, INT 20, WIS 12, CHA 14
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 8, CON 12, DEX 10, INT 18, WIS 12, CHA 12
AC: 15 Fort: 12 Ref: 15 Will: 13
HP: 32 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 8
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +10, Diplomacy +7, Perception +6
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +0, Athletics –1, Bluff +2, Dungeoneering +1, Endurance +1, Heal +1, History +5, Insight +1, Intimidate +2, Nature +3, Religion +5, Stealth +2, Streetwise +2, Thievery +0
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Animal Master Attack: Distracting Attack
Pixie Utility: Pixie Dust
Pixie Utility: Shrink
Artificer Feature: Healing Infusion: Curative Admixture
Artificer Feature: Healing Infusion: Resistive Formula
Warlord Feature: Inspiring Word
Artificer Attack 1: Magic Weapon
Warlord Attack 1: Direct the Strike
Warlord Attack 1: Powerful Warning
Artificer Attack 1: Punishing Eye
FEATS
Level 1: Weapon Proficiency (Superior crossbow)
ITEMS
Superior crossbow
Leather Armor
Adventurer's Kit
====== End ======
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 8:34AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 19, 2010
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if you're interested, I'll post the build progression to whatever level you think you'll reach.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 8:36AM
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You will get so much more mileage out of being an "O-Bard" (the PHB2/AP Bard) than the Skald if you want to be Ranged. The fact that you lose Multiclass Versatility from being a Skald is huge, especially since you lose potential power options from not being able to add Wizard/Invoker/Seeker powers all at once (though I don't know if you're open to worshipping Sehanine so that you don't have implement problems with Invoker and Wizard powers you'd gain from multiclassing into them).
Hmmm...but I really like that Aura thing the guide mentioned something about a fake Skald...would that work?
Oh and no problem with worshipping Sehanine
if you're interested, I'll post the build progression to whatever level you think you'll reach.
Interesting but Pixie's can't use superior X-BOWs...I was going to do that with the Skald build
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 8:47AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2010
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take Beastmaster theme, ride on the Hawk
There's no theme that gives you a mount that can perch on an ally's shoulder. Pixie Rangers can get one, but no-one else. The Fey Beast Tamer theme pets are Medium, and thus can be ridden by smal or smaller creatures, but couldn't easily stand on an ally's shoulder; Animal Master's are tiny and therefore not ridable.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 2:10PM
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take Beastmaster theme, ride on the Hawk
There's no theme that gives you a mount that can perch on an ally's shoulder. Pixie Rangers can get one, but no-one else. The Fey Beast Tamer theme pets are Medium, and thus can be ridden by smal or smaller creatures, but couldn't easily stand on an ally's shoulder; Animal Master's are tiny and therefore not ridable.
Oh well I'm sure she'll be content hiding in pockets or stting on an ally's head :D
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 5:54PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 31, 2009
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First, if you want to mix O-bard with Skald stuff, it would be best to give her a songbow, so she just has one weapliment that works for everything. That's just way easier for a new player to deal with, and a shortbow will give her a little more range than a dagger on her RBAs.
Secondly, it might be best to start her out with expertise as her level 1 feat. Not just because it's so good, but also because it's always on and you don't have to keep track of anything.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 7:05PM
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First, if you want to mix O-bard with Skald stuff, it would be best to give her a songbow, so she just has one weapliment that works for everything. That's just way easier for a new player to deal with, and a shortbow will give her a little more range than a dagger on her RBAs.
Secondly, it might be best to start her out with expertise as her level 1 feat. Not just because it's so good, but also because it's always on and you don't have to keep track of anything.
So does Bow expertise work for both weapon & implement attacks with a songbow?
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 11:14PM
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Neither Bard nor Skald realy seem to lend themselves to ranged builds...every time I try something The Pixie Cunning Bard sits on my shoulder saying..I'd do that better.
Any other leaders lend themselves to +Cha/+Dex or Int (or just Pixie in general) that can pull off a ranged build...or do I just suck at this? Preferably one that doesn't have a controller secondary our Enchament mage already specializes in that (me)
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