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Flag CrystalStorm February 7, 2012 6:30 PM PST
Just a quick question, are you able to critical hit in the 4 extra attack rolls provided by the Five Stars Five Strikes alternate reward? As in would you get the bonus damage and everything else?
Flag Salla February 7, 2012 6:46 PM PST
No; the other four rolls are not additional attacks.  They're just used as a way to determine how many additional d8s of damage you get.
Flag CahPahkah June 15, 2012 9:13 AM PDT
Just hoping someone can help clarify three things:

1.) Is the damage from Five Stars Five Strikes maximized on a critical hit from the triggering attack?  I.e., if I crit on my attack after using Five Stars, do I then deal 8 damage for each of the extra attack rolls that would hit?

2.) If one of the Five Stars attack rolls crits, does that roll do 8 damage?

3.) Are the Five Stars additional rolls affected by Oath of Enmity?  (I'm assuming no, but since I had the other questions anyway...)

 

Five Stars Five Strikes Show

Five Stars Five Strikes         Level 13 Uncommon


Do not stop moving simply because you have struck your target; let one strike blossom into five.


Grandmaster Training        17,000 gp


Utility Power  Encounter (Move Action)


Effect: You move up to your speed. If your next melee attack this turn hits, roll four extra attack rolls (using the same modifier as the initial attack roll) and deal 1d8 extra damage to the creature you hit for each of the extra attack rolls that hits.


 

Oath of Enmity Show


Oath of Enmity


You focus your wrath on a single foe, giving your attacks against it extraordinary accuracy.


Encounter (Special)        Divine
Minor Action      Close burst 10


Target: One enemy you can see in the burst


Effect: When you make a melee attack against the target and the target is the only enemy adjacent to you, you make two attack rolls and use either result. This effect lasts until the end of the encounter or until the target drops to 0 hit points, at which point you regain the use of this power.
If another effect lets you roll twice and use the higher result when making an attack roll, this power has no effect on that attack. If an effect forces you to roll twice and use the lower result when making an attack roll, this power has no effect on that attack either.
If an effect lets you reroll an attack roll and you rolled twice because of this power, you reroll both dice.



Thanks in advance. 

Flag CahPahkah June 17, 2012 9:08 PM PDT
Bump.
Flag Zathris June 18, 2012 12:38 AM PDT
yes, no, no
Flag Cohen95 June 20, 2012 7:52 PM PDT
Why No to #2? It's an attack roll. If it hits you deal d8 damage, why wouldn't that be maxed to 8 if you roll a crit?
Flag Alcestis December 30, 2012 9:07 PM PST

Jun 20, 2012 -- 7:52PM, Cohen95 wrote:

Why No to #2? It's an attack roll. If it hits you deal d8 damage, why wouldn't that be maxed to 8 if you roll a crit?


Because the 1d8 is extra damage. The attack roll itself isn't doing any damage (which is what crits require), the initial attack is, and the initial attack didn't crit.

Flag Matyr December 31, 2012 4:50 PM PST
Would that crit still count for things like Rampage?  I assume not since it isn't a barbarian attack power, but if the base power was I feel the knee-jerk answer is less clearcut.
Flag Plaguescarred January 1, 2013 4:32 AM PST

Dec 31, 2012 -- 4:50PM, Matyr wrote:

Would that crit still count for things like Rampage?  


Yes since they're attack rolls that can miss, hit and critical hit and thus should trigger anything that trigger off of an attack roll or its result.

Flag Matyr January 1, 2013 8:13 AM PST

Jan 1, 2013 -- 4:32AM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Dec 31, 2012 -- 4:50PM, Matyr wrote:

Would that crit still count for things like Rampage?  


Yes since they're attack rolls that can miss, hit and critical hit and thus should trigger anything that trigger off of an attack roll or its result.



Whether they are attack rolls are not isn't the issue.  It is whether they are barbarian attack rolls.

Flag Plaguescarred January 1, 2013 8:23 AM PST
Humm second thought, I'd say no it wouldn't count since you don't score a critical hit with a Barbarian attack power, but with a magic item utility power.



Flag Matyr January 1, 2013 8:49 AM PST

Jan 1, 2013 -- 8:23AM, Plaguescarred wrote:

Humm second thought, I'd say no it wouldn't count since you don't score a critical hit with a Barbarian attack power, but with a magic item utility power.





I was thinking something similar to that, but also it is attack rolls from that power that you are using it on.  Initially I thought it wouldn't work but I feel like if one of my players made the case for it proccing rampage I'd most likely allow it.

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