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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 7:44AM
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Jun 17, 2010
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Implement-keyword-only powers will tend to not have a range of Weapon. Weapon reach doesn't matter at all for things like Monk attacks, the majority of which are either fixed ranges or touch.
For the special case of Hexblades, yes you can get some interesting stacking effects. A gloom pact hexblade with staff implement proficiency and staff expertise, or with a transcendent ki focus, you can have a reach 3 MBA. Oh what fun can be wrought with that.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 8:16AM
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Oct 25, 2007
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Just to clarify:
Implement = weapon reach or superior ki focus reach, not both
Weapon = weapon reach only
Implement, Weapon = both weapon reach and superior ki focus reach
Is that correct?
Implement = Implement reach only.
Weapon = Weapon reach only.
Implement & Weapon= Both weapon reach and implement reach.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 10:03AM
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Implement-keyword-only powers will tend to not have a range of Weapon. Weapon reach doesn't matter at all for things like Monk attacks, the majority of which are either fixed ranges or touch.
For the special case of Hexblades, yes you can get some interesting stacking effects. A gloom pact hexblade with staff implement proficiency and staff expertise, or with a transcendent ki focus, you can have a reach 3 MBA. Oh what fun can be wrought with that.
Funny you should mention that. I've been playing one of those for several months now, and its become my favorite character. With Flail expertise he makes a surprisingly effective controller, especially coupled with the more entertaining utilities like Mirror Darkly. We just hit paragon, and I went with the Shadow Dancer PP, and took Lashing Flail as my level 11 feat (MC Executioner to qualify as a martial class). Now my MBA is reach 3, -2 penelty to attack rolls, prone and slide 1. Mirror Darkly gives me some of the most hilarious utility imaginable, and the outlaw theme/Shadowy Tendrils gives me 2/encounter daze/prone for some makeshift psuedo-stuns, not to mention a fair amount of forced movement. All in all I'm fairly confident in saying this is one of the more effective Hexblade builds.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 1:05PM
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It seems however, as if a Ki Focus' property can indeed be used - along with it's enhancement bonus - when performing a weapon attack.
Apparently the Manual of Ninjutsu (Dragon #404), which has been designed for the Ninja class is an evidence to my assumption.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 1:15PM
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Jun 17, 2010
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Its magical enchantment properties, powers, and enhancement bonus, yes. But not its superior implement properties.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 1:15PM
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It seems however, as if a Ki Focus' property can indeed be used - along with it's enhancement bonus - when performing a weapon attack.
Apparently the Manual of Ninjutsu (Dragon #404), which has been designed for the Ninja class is an evidence to my assumption.
I don't believe anyone is disupting that, but there is a difference between the properties of a magic ki focus like Manual of Ninjutsu and the properties of a superior implement like a transcendent ki focus. The wording I quoted earlier from the PHB3 applies specifically to superior implements.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 01, 2012 - 1:53PM
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Mar 17, 2010
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I did not doubt that, but someone else stated that ONLY the enhancement bonus could be applied. Also being able to use the magical properties and powers of a Ki Focus makes it a bit more attractive.
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