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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 6:51AM #1
Kravell
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I played D&D N at D&D Experience. Monte and the other guys shared quite a lot of mechanics at the seminars.

I respectively highly recommend that Wizards drop the NDAs on the playtesters. Nothing I know goes much beyond what was shared at the seminars. People are dying to know what we know and I would like to share. Heck, I would be even more thrilled if Wizards would post the character sheets. I want everyone to enjoy the new game!

Right now, I can say I had a blast playing D&D N but I can't back up my statement with much. Maybe Wizards knows of some harm I might do if I talked more in depth about D&D N, but from my point of view I'll be nothing but a cheerleader and I'll likely come across as a raging fanboy. I had that much fun even though I went in really skeptical.

Essentials didn't lure me back in (I played 4E up through Dark Sun but couldn't justify buying Essentials and didn't feel comfortable running a game without the full rules). D&D N interested me and now the playtest has brought me back. I'd pre-order if Wizards did such things.

I really want to share my enthusiasm with my fellow players.

Thanks,
Charlie
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 6:55AM #2
Numbed
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2012
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Jan 30, 2012 -- 6:51AM, Kravell wrote:

I played D&D N at D&D Experience. Monte and the other guys shared quite a lot of mechanics at the seminars.

I respectively highly recommend that Wizards drop the NDAs on the playtesters. Nothing I know goes much beyond what was shared at the seminars. People are dying to know what we know and I would like to share. Heck, I would be even more thrilled if Wizards would post the character sheets. I want everyone to enjoy the new game!

Right now, I can say I had a blast playing D&D N but I can't back up my statement with much. Maybe Wizards knows of some harm I might do if I talked more in depth about D&D N, but from my point of view I'll be nothing but a cheerleader and I'll likely come across as a raging fanboy. I had that much fun even though I went in really skeptical.

Essentials didn't lure me back in (I played 4E up through Dark Sun but couldn't justify buying Essentials and didn't feel comfortable running a game without the full rules). D&D N interested me and now the playtest has brought me back. I'd pre-order if Wizards did such things.

I really want to share my enthusiasm with my fellow players.

Thanks,
Charlie


I could reasonably think that overwhelmingly positive playtest = dropping NDA. If the feedback is great, let the players share it. If it is negative, perhaps the game isn't ready to be viewed by the public. Of course, I find the very concept of NDAs in an anonymous internet laughable. Just one player breaking NDA anonymously and only vaguely telling of what happened at the entire table lets the cat out of the bag, and letting only a limited view get out there can only be worse than showing the whole picture.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 7:06AM #3
Scottevil912
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2005
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I find the NDA for D&D XP to be completely annoying. 

So you have DDXP, you had your seminars, people got to play test.  People tweeted "How solid the game was" or "I'm loving 5e" and they can't even answer questions like "what makes 5e more solid than 3e or 4e", but they can keep tweeting how AWESOME it is.

Then you have all the pictures floating around ... oh look this table was using an adventure that looks like the old school stuff from 1e/2e look at that big dungeon with the blue squares!

But NOPE - can't give any more information.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 9:28AM #4
alien270
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Agreed.  I think WotC just likes seeing the forums blow up with speculation, as people argue and rage about things they have very little knowledge of. 
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 9:39AM #5
hatta
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I agree whole heartedly. At the very least loosen them up. Let the people talk about it, but not show any photos and such. 
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 9:54AM #6
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I'm suprised that there hasn't been a leak yet. But then again they might have been pretty good at keeping it hush. The only picture I've seen is of guys sitting around at tables from a camera on the table, you can only see the player's faces, and maybe a few people in the background.

I know the reasons why they don't want to weaken the NDA. Playtesting can change things.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 9:56AM #7
lofgren
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What is an NDA?
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 9:58AM #8
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Jan 30, 2012 -- 9:56AM, lofgren wrote:

What is an NDA?



Non-Disclosure Agreement: a contract that says the people involved in the playtest would not talk about it (in specific ways)

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 10:01AM #9
ashockney
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The game is very early, and very rough.  It needs quite a bit of work before it's ready to stand up to the fires of forum-debate and review.  Having said that, it is challenging not having a place to go debate/share the feedback with others who are under NDA.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 30, 2012 - 10:11AM #10
lofgren
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Ah! I thought he was talking about an aspect of the game.

NDA kind of makes sense at this point in development. I do hope that they open it up in a sort of prerelease fashion to get feedback from a very broad category of players. I know some people complained about the 4e feeling like an "unfinished beta" at times, but personally I am just interested in game design and I wouldn't mind being involved in such a thing. I would even be willing to pay for it in exchange for a small discount on the final product. I would consider it a cool opportunity actually. Maybe I am naive but I think even with a ton of free or nearly free beta material floating around, people would still drop money on the finished set.
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