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1 year ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 8:19AM
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im glad they mentioned this was true in rule of three. now i dont have to preorder it, or look forward to it anymore
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1 year ago ::
Feb 16, 2012 - 11:23AM
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im glad they mentioned this was true in rule of three. now i dont have to preorder it, or look forward to it anymore
Agreed and I am thoroughly disappointed by this news. I was hoping this would be in the style of Neverwinter but for Paragon tier.
Seems I will be sorely disappointed (if I even buy the thing).
Makes me wonder at the wisdom of the publishing schedules we seem to see as editions of D&D die. At the beginning of an edition when the books are coming out monthly, I lap it up and they take my money. At the end of editions, the publication schedule slows down (and for 4E it slowed down in early 2011 with excuses about wanting to produce quality products) and I spend my money with other companies. Appreciate that we are talking about a stripped back design team trying to juggle two editions of the game at this point but it still doesn't make sense to me. Then again I'm not in the publishing business so what do I know?
I'm enjoying my subscription to Pathfinder APs and Campaign Setting which the spare money is paying for though  .
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1 year ago ::
Feb 25, 2012 - 5:38PM
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I think this is a mistake for WotC. ALL 4e players and DM's will most likely turn their backs on the book, for it being edition neutral is a nail on the 4e coffin. Sad thing is, both Neverwinter and Madness at Gardmore Abbey were very finely crafted products that convinced many people the best days for 4e were just beginning.
I was VERY interested on Menzoberranzan. I've spent over 1000 bucks on 4e stuff. So now I am feeling BETRAYED. And there are thousands over there feeling just the same.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 25, 2012 - 8:30PM
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I think I have been blending 4E with previous editons all along once we saw how mechanical it can be if you focus on just the Rules. I think one beauty of Dungeons and Dragons was when things became unpredictable and we had to wing it focusing on the die rolls to keep things in line. Sometimes there might be a magic item that aquires an attribute that wasn't in the DM's plans but in the asumption of the players so the DM goes with it. This is where the 'Fluff' comes in and helps fill the gaps when the DM might need some extra inspiration to make their game more colorful.
As a DM, I am still trying to explain why certain creatures can no longer see in the dark to some of my players, who remember being at a disadvantage to squads of goblins within crumbling warrens of their dark holes.
I couldn't agree more. Chris Perkin's Against the Giants re-writes are solid and show how one can take inspiration from all editions. And DnDNext is supposed to be integrating all editions, so I'm stoked.
I still plan on getting this book. It'll have great ideas.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 04, 2012 - 1:42PM
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Menzo should have been the 'Paragon' Neverwinter Campaign Setting, and I imagine was at one point. City of Brass could have been the Epic, and wow that would have been something... I won't be picking Menzo up after the neutrality revelation to show my non-support for the move. Petty? I don't think so. It's backing what I believe with my money.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 04, 2012 - 3:37PM
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Menzo should have been the 'Paragon' Neverwinter Campaign Setting, and I imagine was at one point. City of Brass could have been the Epic, and wow that would have been something... I won't be picking Menzo up after the neutrality revelation to show my non-support for the move. Petty? I don't think so. It's backing what I believe with my money.
I'm with you, Dragna. Seems we won't have any more adventures or official support for Neverwinter.
I don't know how they expect us to remain loyal and make the 5e jump.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 04, 2012 - 3:54PM
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It's kind of weird, and strangely liberating at the same time, the idea I no longer will be anxiously awaiting every new release, or the majority of new releases. I've been a pretty steady customer throughout 4e, but I have every release since D&D's inception for inspiration, and all of those I consider 'edition neutral'.
I still can't believe they officially shut the faucet off on 4e support beyond DDi support, though, but now, more than ever, I am galvanized to support it myself. This edition got the major shaft and it has never sat well with me. I'm kind of challenged by the massive venom of the lapsed community and the apologist undertones with 5e design team. 4e is great, and I'm going to make it greater.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 05, 2012 - 12:27PM
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I started on 4e after WOTC announced DDNEXT. I decided to play 4e so I could properly contribute to making DDNEXT the best it can be. When I play test it I want to have a fair comparison to 4e. I am quite excited about Menzoberranzan. To me it proves WOTC is truly interested in reuniting the editions and not just making token statements.
I have recently had my faith restored in WOTC, and I have been buying and running 4e (I only initially bought the core in 2008). By playing 4e I can still participate in D&D history. Not to mention I have had a pretty good time of my PC's cleaning up the Spellplague.
The fact the Menzoberranzan is system neutral has me very excited. I loved Neverwinter, but ultimately I am a fan of previous editions. I anxiously await to see what they take from all editions.
Ed Greenwoods Forgotten Realms
AD&D PHB, DMG, and MM
now Menzoberranzan
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