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1 year ago  ::  Feb 19, 2012 - 3:13PM #51
Samrin
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Date Joined: Jan 29, 2005
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Begged for years, but too little too late now with 5e on the horizon. Noone does LFR anymore, and that is my only means of playing.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 1:01PM #52
IxidorRS
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Feb 12, 2012 -- 11:36AM, Crimson_Concerto wrote:

Feb 12, 2012 -- 10:48AM, IxidorRS wrote:

I think Shifty should remain on Kobolds.
We did just get a race that has at-will flight at level 1.
It's really not a stretch anymore.


Bad design does not excuse further bad design.




True, but my point is still valid. If they decided that this was not against the design philosophy, why should Shifty be against it?

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 5:19PM #53
Fox_Reeveheart
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THIS THREAD WAS MADE FOR ME =D

I'M SO EFFIN HAPPY, FINALLY!  THE KOBOLD DAY WILL SOON BE UPON US! 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 5:45PM #54
Joobles
Date Joined: Oct 27, 2011
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I'm so excited!
I've been waiting a long time for this!
Watch out there, gnomes, there's a new spunky race of engineering marvels in town!
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 9:26PM #55
Crimson_Concerto
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 1:01PM, IxidorRS wrote:

Feb 12, 2012 -- 11:36AM, Crimson_Concerto wrote:

Bad design does not excuse further bad design.


True, but my point is still valid.


What? No, that was exactly why your point was not valid.

If they decided that this was not against the design philosophy...


What are you talking about? Them deciding that they want to do something overpowered doesn't make that thing not overpowered. Mistakes exist to be learned from, not repeated.

Why, yes, as a matter of fact I am the Unfailing Arbiter of All That Is Good Design (Even More So Than The Actual Developers) TM

Speaking of things that were badly designed, please check out this thread for my Minotaur fix. What have the critics said, you ask?
"If any of my players ask to play a Minotaur, I'm definitely offering this as an alternative to the official version." - EmpactWB
"If I ever feel like playing a Minotaur I'll know where to look!" - Undrave
"WoTC if you are reading this - please take this guy's advice." - Ferol_Debtor_of_Torm
"Really full of win. A minotaur that is actually attractive for more than just melee classes." - Cpt_Micha

Also, check out my recent GENASI variant! If you've ever wished that your Fire Genasi could actually set stuff on fire, your Water Genasi could actually swim, or your Wind Genasi could at least glide, then look no further.

Finally, check out my OPTIONS FOR EVERYONE article, an effort to give unique support to the races that WotC keeps forgetting about. Includes new racial feature options for the Changeling, Deva, Githzerai, Gnoll, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Kalashtar, Minotaur, Shadar-Kai, Thri-Kreen, Warforged and more!
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 9:33PM #56
Essel
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YES! HUZZAH! Finally Kobolds! Papito will live once more! Xyeesephin shall reign terror down upon all mortals and they shall fear him! 

As you can tell i'm rather excited about this development. Now all I need is Kenku, Bullywug. 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 21, 2012 - 11:34AM #57
IxidorRS
Date Joined: Sep 3, 2011
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 9:33PM, Essel wrote:

YES! HUZZAH! Finally Kobolds! Papito will live once more! Xyeesephin shall reign terror down upon all mortals and they shall fear him! 

As you can tell i'm rather excited about this development. Now all I need is Kenku, Bullywug. 




AFAIK Kenku are already PC-allowed. They just don't have a flex-stat (like Gnolls). I am used to LFR rules so that might just be there.

I'm curious, if you do get Shifty, how do you break it? It doesn't seem that overpowered to me. There are certain situations where it would be very very good but not busted.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 22, 2012 - 12:59PM #58
Crimson_Concerto
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2005
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Feb 21, 2012 -- 11:34AM, IxidorRS wrote:

I'm curious, if you do get Shifty, how do you break it? It doesn't seem that overpowered to me. There are certain situations where it would be very very good but not busted.


It doesn't matter how powerful it seems to be when inserted into the system as a whole. What matters is how powerful it seems when compared to other racial features, because that's what it's supposed to be balanced against. Shifty is too powerful to be a racial feature. If you want an example of what it's ridiculously awesome for, though, look no further than charging builds. With Shifty, a character can repeatedly charge a creature that its adjacent to without fear of opportunity attacks. Does that sound ridiculous? Probably not that much, no, but compare even that with the utility of other racial features.

Why, yes, as a matter of fact I am the Unfailing Arbiter of All That Is Good Design (Even More So Than The Actual Developers) TM

Speaking of things that were badly designed, please check out this thread for my Minotaur fix. What have the critics said, you ask?
"If any of my players ask to play a Minotaur, I'm definitely offering this as an alternative to the official version." - EmpactWB
"If I ever feel like playing a Minotaur I'll know where to look!" - Undrave
"WoTC if you are reading this - please take this guy's advice." - Ferol_Debtor_of_Torm
"Really full of win. A minotaur that is actually attractive for more than just melee classes." - Cpt_Micha

Also, check out my recent GENASI variant! If you've ever wished that your Fire Genasi could actually set stuff on fire, your Water Genasi could actually swim, or your Wind Genasi could at least glide, then look no further.

Finally, check out my OPTIONS FOR EVERYONE article, an effort to give unique support to the races that WotC keeps forgetting about. Includes new racial feature options for the Changeling, Deva, Githzerai, Gnoll, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Kalashtar, Minotaur, Shadar-Kai, Thri-Kreen, Warforged and more!
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 25, 2012 - 12:43AM #59
Gadren
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Mig says:
"Guess they saved the best for last..."
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 25, 2012 - 6:02PM #60
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Feb 25, 2012 -- 12:43AM, Gadren wrote:


Mig says:
"Guess they saved the best for last..."




Like.  So much.

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