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Jan 4, 2013 -- 8:47PM, Yuukale_Narmo wrote:

So, I'm somewhat noob on this whole dpr kings and I'm quite the archery fan (bows, not x-bows). Said that, I see that LDB's Shoot to Thrill is always below the "fair striker" rating, according to Borg's signature.

So, besides the frostbow of sehanine, do we have any other bow-using examples of archery kicking ass? Is it possible to make the Shoot to Thrill a better dpr-er ? Thanks and forgive me if I said something stupid, still trying to learn =)

There is Arrow... Though it's a pretty lame build if you're trying to play it, needs like 4 minor actions and half a standard action before achieving it's proclaimed DPR. DPR Kings is more of a hypothetical exercise than anything else.

Why do you think Shoot to Thrill is below fair striker? I think it is still a pretty solid build. I'd update a few feats and change the order a bit, grab a better theme, but I don't see anything wrong with its general concepts. 

Jan 4, 2013 -- 11:31PM, Yuukale_Narmo wrote:

Arrow? I don't think I've seen it around.

It's got a couple entries in this thread at level 12 and 16, not a very good build, just a high at-will DPR build when it's got all its bells and whistles. Really, mostly just an exercise and not a very meaningful one.

Jan 4, 2013 -- 11:31PM, Yuukale_Narmo wrote:

Even though I wonder if this number can be raised (I mean, dpr-wise, not taking nova into account).
Btw, how do you guys handle novas, considering that they aren't consistent (turn-after-turn) damage. ? Do they matter on the kpr competition?

For the purposes of this thread, unless you have a good way of calculating KP2R, KP5R, and so on, you don't handle novas. There are just too many variables. You can always assume the most favorable conditions and draw up high numbers, but there isn't much point to it.

A lot of good striker builds get their damage up through use of encounter and daily powers. At-will DPR has diminishing returns on investment. For instance when spending a feat, weapon focus may increase at-will DPR, but that same feat spent on Battle Awareness, or a power swap for a multi-attack or free action attack, can be more worthwhile, removing enemies off the board faster. Similarly, for this thread, hybriding executioner to get an extra die or two of damage increases at-will DPR, but hybriding fighter to get a triple tap and a free action attack will likely make a better striker.

I wouldn't worry too much about increasing at-will DPR, and just see what your 2-3 round attack plan looks like with a build. You can usually surpass at-will DPR times 3, in your 3 round attack plan if you build toward that, rather than trying to make a high at-will DPR build.

If you're just trying to submit something to this thread for the sake of the exercise, just study the existing submissions, and see the tricks and assumptions they use.