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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 9:48AM
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Oct 12, 2011
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There's already multiple, fully fleshed out D&D editions out there. There has always been edition war with new editions.
We now have three+ diverse, distinct brands of the D&D experience out there. Groups exist for all 3, web communities exist for all 3. There's plenty of books out for all three.
Why do we need 'unification?' we've already got a diverse array of well supported D&D in all kinds of flavors.
WHO needs that new edition? (Well, other than Monte Cook to stay employed heh)
If a meteor were to hit the WotC office today, it would not stop me from attending my weekly gaming session with friends, or going online to chat with the worldwide D&D fanbase.
So... why exactly do we need a new edition? What's wrong with playing the D&D you already play?
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 9:57AM
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Nov 30, 2005
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Because people still complain about the current published version of 4e. I don't think its doing as well as liked, and 3.5 is still running strong. 3.5 is out of print and that money goes to PF or Ebay. WoTC wants that money. Or do you mean, why do players want a new edition? Because we want an edition that we enjoy getting new stuff published. Alternativley, we want our edition that is being published improved upon, and if a new edition is whats needed so be it.
5e comments and thoughts all in one place. Check it out to provide feedback, mock, or steal ideas.
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/28835423/Krusks_5e_Design_Goals?sdb=1
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 10:05AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 10, 2007
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The game is for profit.
The publisher is not getting rich from old editions of the game. Their newest is a dog that only a few fanatics are clinging to. I certainly ain't wasting the little money I have on any of their products. I wasted enough on 3e.
They need a way to increase revenues and they are doing what they always do when sales are flat, they redesign the wheel.
Perhaps they should send manuscripts to the printers and start selling older versions, start supporting them with new products, and focus on bringing the community together.
To be hones, although I am filled with curiosity about the new design, I am not very optomistic that it is going to be any better than the last mess they foisted on us. We shall see.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 10:06AM
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WotC needs a profitable edition.
Resident Socialist and Undying Troublemaker
Martyr of Section 1, 2 and 4
Original Troll of the House of Trolls
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 10:06AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 21, 2011
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If they really listen to the customer and create a 5th based on what we really want, I'll spend my money on this edition...
4th brought us some amazing things but I felt it like they were trying to grab new players...Maybe these players never came in the number they were hoping. Maybe they didn't listen to us enough...
3rd brought nice changes too but I sold my books, they had not enough interesting things outside rules... ( 4th is even worse for this... )
2nd was the first I played, it has a sentimental value, I still have and keep my 2nd edition books...So much Lore!!! ( And Arts of half-naked women! hehe )
So I feel that the gap from 2nd must be filled at some point! I'd give a chance to 5th Edition!
If 5th Edition Fails....I will start my own game!
I'm playing:
Abin Gadon, Halfling Bard
Winston "Slurphnose", Gnome Sorcerer
Pasiphaé, Minotaur Shaman
Eglerion, Elf Ellyrian Reaver (Ranger)
DMing:
Le Trésor du Fluide (Treasure from the Fluid)
Un Royaume d'une Grande Valeur (A Kingdom of Great Value)
La Légende de Persitaa (Persitaa's Legend)
Une Série de Petites Quêtes... (A serie of short quests)
Playtesting:
Caves of Chaos
We're building the greatest adventure ever known to DnD players!
Also playing Legend of the Five Rings and Warhammer Fantasy.
Sébastien, Beloeil, Qc.
I am Neutral Good and 32 years old.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 11:18AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 14, 2008
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Like previous posters said, we don't need it; WotC needs it.
However, if they do create One Edition To Rule Them All, how is that going to help them in the long run?
Let's assume absolute best case. EVERYONE loves 5E, and EVERYONE runs out and buys every product they make for it. Eventually, they will have run through the entire progression (again) -- all the classes, all the races, all the options we've seen before.
So they will either get to the point where they've run out of new rules to write (again), or they'll start doing crazy stuff like writing books about races of crystal people saving the universe from Cthulhu. Erm, wait a second ...
Anyway, you get my point. No matter what happens, this is only a stay of execution. Even if the grand scheme works out, it only means their reason for making the next "D&D Next" (D&D Extra-Next?) will make even less sense.
On the other hand, if they do something sensible like stop writing rules and instead focus on accessories and adventures, maybe the madness can actually end.
If your position is that the official rules don't matter, or that house rules can fix everything, please don't bother posting in forums about the official rules. To do so is a waste of everyone's time.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 11:21AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 30, 2007
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WotC needs it. Uniting the editions is the only chance they have of getting the revenue they need to appease their Hasbro overlords because catering to the fanbase of any single edition just won't be enough. And then Habsro will shelve the brand for the next 10 years.
Owner and Proprietor of the House of Trolls.
God of ownership and possession.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 11:32AM
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WotC of course wants to raise profits, so that's one of the two groups involved.
The other group being the players, supported content is supported, there is excitement for new. I like new.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 11:44AM
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Date Joined:
Sep 14, 2009
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Or do you mean, why do players want a new edition? Because we want an edition that we enjoy getting new stuff published. Alternativley, we want our edition that is being published improved upon, and if a new edition is whats needed so be it.
There's new stuff being published for all previous editions, already. Not so much for 2e, but they can easily use the pre 2e material.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 16, 2012 - 11:52AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 12, 2012
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I am an optimist. I think we could make a system that is even better than the games that are out there now. If WotC fails to do so, I lose nothing.
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