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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 7:44PM #1
Jorunhast
Date Joined: Jan 6, 2010
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For 5E, I'd like to see the cosmology returned to either the Great Wheel / Planescape design, or to the World Tree they had for FR.

I don't like the Feywild / Shadowfell, and I bloody hate Far Realms.  Get rid of them.


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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 7:48PM #2
Eisenritter
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News flash:  The Great Wheel version had the Far Realm, too. Tongue Out
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 7:49PM #3
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the feywild is the plane of faerie


I agree with the shadowfell, the plane of shadow was good enough as far as I was concerned.

Far Realms....ick I never was much of a lovecraftian.


each their own.


as to the cosmology.

whatever they do, I just hop the ydo one thing and that is better explain it and make sure it's clear.            
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 7:56PM #4
lord_zack
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Going back to the Great Wheel would make me a happy man. However I'd probably be just as happy with the core materials not really having a default planar model, just refering to various planar locations.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 8:08PM #5
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Eh.  Whatever they pick, it won't really effect me.

As a player I've never been at all concerned with the "map" of the planes - just wether or not I could get to (and out of) the etheral, plane of fire, Hades, etc etc etc.

As a DM?  I'm not married to any one idea. 
Sometimes I use what's published, other times I just make S*** up.  And just because I used one version of the cosmology in a campaign or setting doesn't mean that I'll use it again the next time I DM.  
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 8:12PM #6
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 As a long time player of DnD (since 78) I actually like the 4e cosmology the best.
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 8:14PM #7
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 8:12PM, Kedrith wrote:

 As a long time player of DnD (since 78) I actually like the 4e cosmology the best.




Same here. 

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 8:22PM #8
ChaosStorm
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I liked the idea of multiple possible cosmologies, depending on the setting.  Dragonlance had a vastly different cosmology than Forgotten Realms.  (And yet with the Great Wheel, both were interesting interpretations.)  I've been thinking of the Shadowfell as a more developed Demiplane of Shadow this entire time, with Ravenloft lurking deep within.  The Feywild makes sense as a reflection of those same energies.  I basically saw 4e's depiction akin to Dragonlance's myopic view of everything outside of Krynn's material plane as "The Abyss."  And then there was Spelljammer...

I think a big cosmology like The Great Wheel provides many ways of viewing it.  In my mind it never went away.  (And never will.) 
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 8:37PM #9
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 09, 2012 - 8:52PM #10
bone_naga
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Jan 9, 2012 -- 7:44PM, Jorunhast wrote:

For 5E, I'd like to see the cosmology returned to either the Great Wheel / Planescape design, or to the World Tree they had for FR.

I don't like the Feywild / Shadowfell, and I bloody hate Far Realms.  Get rid of them.



You can always adjust the cosmology based on your campaign. Really the current one is generic enough that you can fit the Great Wheel into it or have a Norse-like cosmology with the world tree, or really whatever works. Besides, the Great Wheel felt really forced and artificial. The only reason anyone likes it is nostalgia. If this was the first time it was introduced, people would be up in arms shouting it down and talking about what a terrible idea that is.

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