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1 year ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 10:06AM #91
DoctorBadWolf
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Jun 2, 2012 -- 1:22AM, Areleth wrote:

Jun 2, 2012 -- 12:15AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

I wouldn't mind a time advance, but only enough of one that it's still essentially europe in between the great wars. Maybe a handful of years, at most. No 50 year jump.



Since I still have all the old books, it wouldn't bother me to see it advanced a bit.

What would any of you guys want to see changed if it did get advanced? Like that Droaam/Breland war or Haruuc being killed?

I wouldn't mind Breland being at war with Droaam, since I'm always looking for an excuse to kill Sora Maenya in every game, but I like Haruuc and I'd prefer him alive.

Maybe the Inspired could be building a monolith in Q'barra, or the Valenar have moved from raiding the Talenta Plains into an open invasion in hopes of forcing Karrnath to act, or something is rumbling deep in Xen'drik that has mages across Eberron concerned, or Aurala has water accidentally splashed on her at a party and melts, throwing Aundair into its own mini-succession-crisis.

As long as the situation remains a boiling point that hasn't spilled over into a new war yet, then I think the themes of Eberron remain intact, but we'll have even more information to play around with.




I think most of the existing power balance should remain intact. No new outbreaks of violence or anything like that.

What I'd like to see is some new developments in Xendrik. The drow need a Carthage, IMO. They need a great center of civilization that the rest of the world is just finding out about, because of a sudden opening of trade with Stormreach.

New power struggles in Xendrik, while leaving the bulk of the continent unexplored and wild, is what I'd like.

Good aligned (or just normal shades of morality), surface dwelling, civilized drow society? Yes please.

More sex and gender equality and racial equality shouldn't even be an argument--it should simply be an assumption for any RPG that wants to stay relevant in the 21st century.



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1 year ago  ::  Jun 05, 2012 - 9:53PM #92
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Advancing the timeline?

As long as there is an option to continue to play after the Last War, and other Eras of Eberron's History, I have no problem with this.  Perhaps a ten to 20 year jump.  Not too much that there is a build up of weapons for a new war on the horizon, but enough to bring new players up to date.
 
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1 year ago  ::  Jun 05, 2012 - 10:14PM #93
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Jun 2, 2012 -- 10:06AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

What I'd like to see is some new developments in Xendrik. The drow need a Carthage, IMO. They need a great center of civilization that the rest of the world is just finding out about, because of a sudden opening of trade with Stormreach.
Good aligned (or just normal shades of morality), surface dwelling, civilized drow society? Yes please.



The Sulatar aren't GOOD, but I don't see them as culturally evil in the same way that the Lolth-worshipping drow are. If you adjust their current isolationist beliefs so they have reason to trade or interact with other cultures, you have a surface-dwelling, sophisticated drow culture waiting to be explored. And hey, I'm sure Cannith would love to learn more about their elemental binding techniques!

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1 year ago  ::  Jun 06, 2012 - 1:10AM #94
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I am not a big fan of a timeline advance. A good campaign setting thrives on unresolved potential conflicts in which the PCs can have an impact. Eberron shines in this regards, especially since none of these potential conflicts are welll defined let alone guaranteed. A DM has the arguments to let one come to the fore, or die a silent death. If you advance the timeline that would mean resolving some of the current conflicts, and adding new ones. Considering the outcry of fans for FR where it happened two times, I doubt the majority of fans really want it. You could stick with little changes, but some of them can have a huge impact (e.g. replacement of the Lhesh as in the novels with a new human-friendly one means that the current potential of conflict with Darguun is lessened a lot) and if not why bother? You are just making it harder to use older material since now you have to keep a close eye on the details.
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1 year ago  ::  Jun 06, 2012 - 4:46PM #95
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Jun 2, 2012 -- 10:06AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

The drow need a Carthage, IMO.




Carthage must be destroyed!

I would prefer to have the timeline stay as it is. Now, the last chapter of the DM book, though, could have a few scenarios depecting Eberron 2, 5, 10, and 20 years into the future. Preferably with drastically different events (+2 years may feature Haruuc assassinated, whereas in +5 years, he's still alive and kicking). That way, the core of the setting is unchanged, but people who want to experiment have some foundation to work on. 

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1 year ago  ::  Jun 06, 2012 - 4:55PM #96
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Jun 6, 2012 -- 4:46PM, Ogiwan wrote:

Carthage must be destroyed!


Alexandria then.

I'm fine with the timeline advancing if it could mean better sales for Eberron. I buy everything that says Eberron on the cover on principle, and I'm happy with the timeline as it stands, but if it gets more exposure for Eberron then lets do it.

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1 year ago  ::  Jun 07, 2012 - 9:36AM #97
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Jun 5, 2012 -- 10:14PM, Hellcow wrote:

Jun 2, 2012 -- 10:06AM, DoctorBadWolf wrote:

What I'd like to see is some new developments in Xendrik. The drow need a Carthage, IMO. They need a great center of civilization that the rest of the world is just finding out about, because of a sudden opening of trade with Stormreach.
Good aligned (or just normal shades of morality), surface dwelling, civilized drow society? Yes please.



The Sulatar aren't GOOD, but I don't see them as culturally evil in the same way that the Lolth-worshipping drow are. If you adjust their current isolationist beliefs so they have reason to trade or interact with other cultures, you have a surface-dwelling, sophisticated drow culture waiting to be explored. And hey, I'm sure Cannith would love to learn more about their elemental binding techniques!




That's what I was thinking.

More sex and gender equality and racial equality shouldn't even be an argument--it should simply be an assumption for any RPG that wants to stay relevant in the 21st century.



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1 year ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 10:56AM #98
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Collected Eberron books in 3rd but never played (pretty much always hombrews), loved the setting.  Got to play in 4e on a 10 level Paragon run, and whatever 4e changes didn't directly come out of the DMs mouth I disregarded.  TTRPGs are great that way.

Please, don't advance the timeline!  Eberron, imo, is that world at that moment.  DMs and adventure writers are free to move forward and back in time to tell their stories, but as a published campaign world I don't think the timing should change.

But feel free to change lots of the little details or big chunks as necessary.  I'd rather an overhaul of Xen'drik than an advancement of the timeline.

I agree that Eberron was 3rd edition, so many of it's ideas were mechanics and mechanics were ideas.  The translation to 4e was handled as best as it could.  Mandates, sounds pretty much how it read.  My hope would be 5th Eberron would again be written for that ruleset.  I think changes in the campaign world that highlight the new edition mechanics would make it worth buying the campaign again.  Dis/Advantage and the like.

I still think Warforged should be presented solely in the Eberron campaign.

But my guess is that 5th will be less campaign specific, compared to 4e, which will lend itself to a 5th edition of Eberron. 

I could see Eberron, purely on the Modular framework, have a distinct feel to D&D in general.  Heavier emphasis on exploration and interaction, for example.  Or subsystems that cover new ground.
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1 year ago  ::  Jun 18, 2012 - 12:40PM #99
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It would be nice to use the modular system to revamp the Dragonmarks into their own fully developed little side system.
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11 months ago  ::  Aug 13, 2012 - 8:52PM #100
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So far I'm liking what I'm seeing in the latest 5e playtest package.

There is definitely a lot of potential for setting specific alterations and refinements.  Eberron Next is looking a little brighter.
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