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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 10:47AM
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May 24, 2009
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Is it bad that their turns take so long that I can preroll all attack rolls, damage rolls, and still be able to post here?
Alternatively, is it unethical that I'm telling them that it's an e-mail to my boss?
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 11:17AM
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Nov 29, 2011
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Are they indecisive, or just like shaking the dice with dramatic anticipation?
Just give 'em a moderate time limit if it's too bad.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 11:37AM
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May 24, 2009
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"14+6... that's.... oh wait, wrong stat! Sorry! Oops! My bad! That's... 14+8.... that's.... 22! Wait! it WAS the right stat! 14+6... Is... 18? No, 20! Okay. I was... wait, I didn't roll ATTACK! 3+17 is.... 20. That's a miss."
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 11:53AM
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Mar 15, 2008
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"14+6... that's.... oh wait, wrong stat! Sorry! Oops! My bad! That's... 14+8.... that's.... 22! Wait! it WAS the right stat! 14+6... Is... 18? No, 20! Okay. I was... wait, I didn't roll ATTACK! 3+17 is.... 20. That's a miss."
Yeah they need to better document how their powers work. Let me guess, they all use the character builder?
Have them write their powers out on little index cards. Have them write it out with all the math already done, so "Attack: Str vs AC, Hit: 1[w] + Str" becomes "+10/AC; d8 + 5"
"Not only are you wrong, but I even created an Excel spreadsheet to show you how wrong you are." --James Wyatt, May 2006
Dilige, et quod vis fac
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 11:59AM
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Nov 29, 2011
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"14+6... that's.... oh wait, wrong stat! Sorry! Oops! My bad! That's... 14+8.... that's.... 22! Wait! it WAS the right stat! 14+6... Is... 18? No, 20! Okay. I was... wait, I didn't roll ATTACK! 3+17 is.... 20. That's a miss."
Ahaha. I've been rolling the hit or miss for my new players because I have their attack bonuses and whatnot. Everyone seems completely okay with that power being in my hands except for one player who found it "confusing" (I don't think he was paying attention). I've been getting everyone to repeat their stats until they've memorized them.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 12:01PM
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"14+6... that's.... oh wait, wrong stat! Sorry! Oops! My bad! That's... 14+8.... that's.... 22! Wait! it WAS the right stat! 14+6... Is... 18? No, 20! Okay. I was... wait, I didn't roll ATTACK! 3+17 is.... 20. That's a miss."
Yeah they need to better document how their powers work. Let me guess, they all use the character builder?
Have them write their powers out on little index cards. Have them write it out with all the math already done, so "Attack: Str vs AC, Hit: 1[w] + Str" becomes "+10/AC; d8 + 5"
This. They should have all their math precomputed so, at most, they have to add three numbers (d20, attack bonus from power, any circumstancial bonuses like flanking). Preparation counts.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 5:17PM
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Preparation counts.
To change one of my favorite quotes only slightly:
Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
(The original quote is about planning, but it still works.)
Gold is for the mistress, silver for the maid Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade." "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, "But Iron -- Cold Iron -- is master of them all." -Kipling Defenders: We ARE the wall! I've replaced the previous Edition Warring line in my sig with this one, because honestly, everybody needs to work together to make the D&D they like without trampling on somebody else's D&D. Miss d20 Modern? Take a look at Dias Ex Machina Game's UltraModern 4e! I am a hero, not a chump.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 09, 2012 - 11:05AM
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Is it bad that their turns take so long that I can preroll all attack rolls, damage rolls, and still be able to post here?
Alternatively, is it unethical that I'm telling them that it's an e-mail to my boss?
How long have the group been playing, are they complete newbs and what level are they?
Overall what your describing are pretty clueless players or very new ones to D&D that need to know their Powers better.
If they are clueless players who don't pay attention then a few words may be required (or you might need to find a new group-worst case scenario), such as "fella's you've been playing for X months\years and really ought to know your characters better by now, be paying attention to what is happening in the game and preparing what you are doing BEFORE your turn. The game is taking 3 sessions instead of 2(or 1) and it's pretty frustrating....can we agree to work on this?"
If however they are new then they may need the details above delivered in a gentler tone "guys, between you turns you need to watch what is happening and start planning what you are going to do...ok thing could change a bit as creatures react, other party members move etc but this will speed things up....you also need to make sure you know what power you are using then roll the dice and do the math....can we do that?"
It might be an idea for the players to print out their powers and cut them into cards( or glue them to playing cards) so they can choose the power they are using, drop used powers to one side, all of which may speed things up.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 09, 2012 - 2:43PM
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Iplay4e might solve this issue as far as math goes.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 09, 2012 - 3:14PM
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Jun 15, 2004
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Is it bad that their turns take so long that I can preroll all attack rolls, damage rolls, and still be able to post here?
Yes. It is a side effect of 4e. However, as the DM you have the ability (nay, the obligation) to set their pace. Tips on how to do this (rather than working on the computer) can be provided if desired.
is it unethical that I'm telling them that it's an e-mail to my boss?
No, since the lie is unrelated to DM'ing. However, it is still a lie, and might still hinder trust if they found out.
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