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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 2:11PM
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i have to agree with pluisjen though. changing mechanics just for sake of changing it is just as bad as keeping a mechanic for legacy reasons.
does the change fit with the vision of the new edition? yes or no?
there is no real way to say if a mechanic should be changed without knowing the intent of change itself and how it fits in the big picture.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 2:22PM
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Could the core mechanic be changed? Should it be changed?
Will the alternative be better? Answer to all three questions is basically the same.
You dodged the question. It was could/should the core mechanic be changed (i.e. by professionals). Turning it back on Jester to come up the 'what that mechanic is' only gives you a target to shoot at in this thread -- but I guess you need to just type something sometimes to keep your average number of posts north of 20 per day.
Personally I am up for letting WotC have their designers unleash some of that creativity and let the game evolve (if/when 5E comes out).
It wasn't dodging the question, because my third question wasn't aimed at Jester. My stance, quite simply put, is that they should change everything and anything if they feel that the result is a better game.
Including the core mechanics. Sacred cows exist to be slaughtered. I thought it would be obvious from the post, but I guess I need to spell it out.
But thanks for the insults, much appreciated 
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 2:28PM
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But thanks for the insults, much appreciated
Two wrongs don't dude, two wrongs...
But it did come off as a tad evasive. Thank you for clarifying your intent. 
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 5:07PM
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Sacred cows exist to be slaughtered.
Mmm. For delicious, delicious sacred hamburger.
....wait, is that why I love Eberron and 4e? They turned a lot of (pointless) sacred cows into tasty, tasty progress?
Gold is for the mistress, silver for the maid Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade." "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, "But Iron -- Cold Iron -- is master of them all." -Kipling Defenders: We ARE the wall! I've replaced the previous Edition Warring line in my sig with this one, because honestly, everybody needs to work together to make the D&D they like without trampling on somebody else's D&D. Miss d20 Modern? Take a look at Dias Ex Machina Game's UltraModern 4e! I am a hero, not a chump.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 7:35PM
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Sacred cows exist to be slaughtered.
Mmm. For delicious, delicious sacred hamburger.
....wait, is that why I love Eberron and 4e? They turned a lot of (pointless) sacred cows into tasty, tasty progress?
The old french saying - you can not make an omelette without breaking some eggs.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 7:37PM
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Sacred cows exist to be slaughtered.
Mmm. For delicious, delicious sacred hamburger.
....wait, is that why I love Eberron and 4e? They turned a lot of (pointless) sacred cows into tasty, tasty progress?
Indeed.
D&D Playerz can has sacred cheezburger.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 08, 2012 - 7:43PM
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Indeed.
D&D Playerz can has sacred cheezburger.
You, sir, have won this thread.
Gold is for the mistress, silver for the maid Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade." "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, "But Iron -- Cold Iron -- is master of them all." -Kipling Defenders: We ARE the wall! I've replaced the previous Edition Warring line in my sig with this one, because honestly, everybody needs to work together to make the D&D they like without trampling on somebody else's D&D. Miss d20 Modern? Take a look at Dias Ex Machina Game's UltraModern 4e! I am a hero, not a chump.
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1 year ago ::
Jan 09, 2012 - 7:05AM
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... I guess we know the state of 4e after this morning. Popular on this forum, less poplar everywhere else...
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1 year ago ::
Jan 09, 2012 - 8:50AM
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Heh. I gave exact numbers showing that 4th edition had less then 5% of the market share of just the DND brand and less then 1% of the total RPG market. I was really rather irritated that they removed it and the 10 people who quoted it. OTH now I am just sitting here chuckling at the people who went out of their way to get my post removed only to get something like this one day later. Fate and or Karma can really be just very very funny sometimes. Lord may my words be tender and juicy today, for tomorrow I may have to eat them 
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1 year ago ::
Jan 09, 2012 - 11:07AM
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Here's my favorite quote from the article:
"People have no time for bullshit," he said.
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