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Stats we use for a bolas used by a Yeti in our game. Thought I would share.

Bolas ACC: +4 (DEX/INT) DMG: 1d4 + (2 x LEVEL) RANGE: (2 + 1/2 STR bonus) squares    AND HIT = Damage AND Reflex save VS hard DC. Failure means target "restrained" ( see page 85 ) until:    A) bolas broken: Hard STR save or cut with a blade          OR    B) untangled: Moderate REF save ends

Gamma World is based on 4e, Save Throws do not exist, so these bolas can't work... And restrained is a bit too harsh, maybe slowed is more balanced. Maybe imobilized for a turn and then slowed no matter what?

You might be playing an older edition, which I am sorry for assuming that since you are posting in the current edition forum that that is indeed what you were playing, but if you are going to write about and argue about rules interpretations, of a different edition, you should say so.

So yeah, in 7th edition Gamma World, which uses the 4th ed. D&D system, there are no saving throws, and restrained in one of the best conditions to inflict on an enemy, and is thus very, very rare, and should not be available at will.  That is why it was taken from the executioner.

And if you want your target to not move, he is immobilized, not restrained.  Immobilized means he cant move from his spot.  Restrained means he physically cannot move at all, IE tied up hands and feet with a rope, and cannot defend himself.  (Which means it also inflicts the helpless condition, letting you CDG at will.  Which would be broken.)

Dec 18, 2011 -- 5:25AM, marroon69 wrote:

wow!!! Sorry to see you are all worked up....but I sort think role playing is not defined by the game but by the players. I have been in very intense role playing sessions in 4e where we did not even have a combat, spent the entire session with out one power use. The system does not define it...the players and the GM do. So I do not think it matters what the system is as long as the group is focused on role playing....unless you mean roll-play. Then I would agree 3.5 mas a much more configurable and Min/Max game then 4.0.

lol either way Gamma is all about the world....the rules are just used to help define situations with in it!  

The system is important and it can really improve the enjoyment of the game (i don't use the term "roleplay", is too vague\abused...).
But a system can't prevent the roleplay aspect altogether, definetely not 4e D&D.

agreed the system needs to match the group if you are a rule based tacticle oreinted group.  Great games like "All Flesh must be eaten" ( zombies!!!) do not even use maps or minatures and are most definitly roleplaying games. i understand people like both sides of the game...and the term role playing game is used pretty broadly.
 
lol not sure what my point!!! i guess both sides are important and the system needs to fit your group and everyone has a different point of view......