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1 year ago  ::  Apr 03, 2012 - 12:26AM #371
RayjeEliwan
Date Joined: Mar 4, 2010
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Regarding the Elemental Pact, is there a RAW answer to the question of what happens when, after your pact boon triggers, you use a power to curse multiple foes at once? It would make sense to me (and I'd probably default to this if I were GMing and a player asked me) that you would choose which target gets the vulnerability, but is there a specific clause anywhere in the written rules we can point to and say "that's why"?
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 03, 2012 - 12:47AM #372
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
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If you have not modified it, you have to curse the closest target to you.  With a paragon feat, it becomes the two nearest ones.  If you have the hexer paragon path, it is anyone within close burst 5 then beyond that it is the closest one.  There is a racial feat that allows you to curse a target that hits you. 

But if you read the pact boon, it states "the next enemy" so I think that it would be the first one you cursed in the area.  I.e. if there are 10 people around the target and you trigger rod of corruption, it is the first of those 10 enemies that would get the elemental pact boon.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 04, 2012 - 2:52AM #373
Details
Date Joined: Mar 30, 2012
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Does anyone have a good Kinglock build? I'm starting a new game at level 11. I kinda want be a half-elf if possible
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 1:52AM #374
JaeMi
Date Joined: Aug 15, 2008
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Under level 19 daily powers, delusions of loyalty (a "quasi-dominate" power) is gold, while voice of the dictator (an actual dominate power) is light blue. I'm a bit confused at why this is the case.

Apr 4, 2012 -- 2:52AM, Details wrote:

Does anyone have a good Kinglock build? I'm starting a new game at level 11. I kinda want be a half-elf if possible



I posted my build here (coincidentally a half-elf kinglock!), but I haven't received any feedback yet. Still, I did a bit of research on the powers and feats, so I'm hoping it should be good. If you have any comments about it though, please tell me.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 2:44AM #375
thespaceinvader
Date Joined: Oct 28, 2010
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Apr 5, 2012 -- 1:52AM, JaeMi wrote:

Under level 19 daily powers, delusions of loyalty (a "quasi-dominate" power) is gold, while voice of the dictator (an actual dominate power) is light blue. I'm a bit confused at why this is the case.



I'd guess, because quite a lot of mobs have specific resistance, or immunity to, or ability to remove, domination, particularly at high paragon and above, whilst significantly fewer have the ability to remove or negate quasi-dominate effects.

E: also, Delusions of Loyalty is Reliable.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 5:22AM #376
DuelistDelSol
Date Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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Apr 5, 2012 -- 2:44AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Apr 5, 2012 -- 1:52AM, JaeMi wrote:

Under level 19 daily powers, delusions of loyalty (a "quasi-dominate" power) is gold, while voice of the dictator (an actual dominate power) is light blue. I'm a bit confused at why this is the case.



I'd guess, because quite a lot of mobs have specific resistance, or immunity to, or ability to remove, domination, particularly at high paragon and above, whilst significantly fewer have the ability to remove or negate quasi-dominate effects.

E: also, Delusions of Loyalty is Reliable.


That was my exact reasoning for the rankings.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 05, 2012 - 3:51PM #377
JaeMi
Date Joined: Aug 15, 2008
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Ah okay, thanks! Smile
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 15, 2012 - 7:50PM #378
Koshinuke
Date Joined: Feb 23, 2012
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Looking over things, the Malec-Keth Janissary path should be rated high for elemental warlocks because it allows you to add the elemental damage to even off turn attacks.

For Example:
Warlock has Malec-Keth Janissary,  is elemental/sorcerer-king and has mindbite scorn, killing curse, WLR, and WLMR.  If a cursed target, that the warlock has hit, hits the warlock, warlock can hit the target again doing the curse damage and the extra damage will add the element that matches the affinity so it is much easier to add damage and would add the vulnerability damage as well.

I have been searching for ways to add the type to match the affinity and I have found multiple ways to do each that could be relatively easy to get. 

Acid = Gloves of Eldritch Admixture, Malec-Keth Janissary
Cold = Gloves of Eldritch Admixture, Malec-Keth Janissary, Frost Weapon
Fire = Burning Fist Ki Focus, Flaming Weapon, Gloves of Eldritch Admixture, Malec-Keth Janissary
Lightning = Lightning Weapon, Forked Lightning Ki Focus
Thunder = Thunderfist Ki Focus, Malec-Keth Janissary
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 15, 2012 - 8:39PM #379
DuelistDelSol
Date Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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... except "extra" damage from curses is independent of the power in question. You're not using an Acid power if you hit someone with an unadmixtured Eldritch Blast and use the Gloves to make your curse deal Acid damage, for example.

That's why Lightning Weapons, Radiant Weapons, etc., don't do anything to Curse dice - it's extra damage as a product of a game element outside of the original attack.
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 15, 2012 - 10:01PM #380
IxidorRS
Date Joined: Sep 3, 2011
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What concepts are there for Hybrid Warlock | Paladin?

I figured it would be a bit of a charge build (both so that you can use your standard to move and attack so you can downgrade your minor for either challenge or curse), with the feat for d10s on challenge+curse, the feat for an extra d6 (taking Sorcerer King), and taking White Lotus Riposte (not Master for obvious reasons). And I think I'll be a Tiefling.

So what I know I'd want:
Crimson Fire
Imperious Majesty
White Lotus Riposte

I also think White Lotus Master Hindrance would be a good choice as well.

White Lotus Hindrance could combo well with either Boots of Adept Charging or Cormyr Purple Dragon.

So what you do is charge with Eldritch Strike so they'll be under your riposte and you'll have hindering terrain all about you. This will keep most monsters from being able to charge you, so they'll need to spend two actions to attack you, or spend however many they need to attack your allies (hopefully two in Paragon if I take Master Hindrance). It also sets up the ability to charge in the next turn if needed.

So, I think this has been done before but maybe not for awhile. What else should I be considering?

EDIT: Just remember, one of the things I'm unsure about: Paladin Armor Prof or Shadow Walk + Int as secondary?

This sure is a feat-starved buid. Here's a first try.

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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
level 11
Tiefling, Warlock/Paladin, Academy Master
Eldritch Pact (Hybrid) Option: Sorcerer-King Pact (Hybrid)
Hybrid Warlock Option: Hybrid Warlock Reflex
Hybrid Paladin Option: Hybrid Paladin Fortitude
Eldritch Strike Option: Eldritch Strike Charisma
Versatile Expertise Option: Versatile Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Versatile Expertise Option: Versatile Expertise (Rod)
Hybrid Talent Option: Shadow Walk
Auspicious Birth (Auspicious Birth Benefit)
Theme: Purple Dragon
 
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 11, CON 16, DEX 11, INT 18, WIS 9, CHA 22
 
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 10, CON 13, DEX 10, INT 15, WIS 8, CHA 17
 
 
AC: 24 Fort: 21 Ref: 23 Will: 23
HP: 85 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 21
 
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +16, Bluff +18, Intimidate +16
 
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +5, Athletics +5, Diplomacy +11, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +8, Heal +4, History +9, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +9, Stealth +7, Streetwise +11, Thievery +5
 
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Purple Dragon Utility: Focused Discipline
Tiefling Racial Power: Infernal Wrath
Warlock's Curse  Power: Warlock's Curse
Paladin Feature: Divine Challenge
Warlock Attack 1: Eldritch Strike
Paladin Attack 1: Enfeebling Strike
Warlock Attack 1: Shadow Tentacles
Warlock Attack 1: Decree of Khirad
Warlock Utility 2: Caiphon's Leap
Paladin Attack 3: Invigorating Smite
Warlock Attack 5: Tyrannical Threat
Paladin Utility 6: Valiant Rush
Paladin Attack 7: Price of Cowardice
Paladin Attack 9: Ray of Reprisal
Warlock Utility 10: Ethereal Sidestep
Academy Master Attack 11: Learned Boost
 
FEATS
Level 1: Versatile Expertise
Level 2: White Lotus Riposte
Level 4: White Lotus Hindrance
Level 6: Imperious Majesty
Level 8: Crimson Fire
Level 10: Hybrid Talent
Level 11: White Lotus Master Hindrance
 
ITEMS
Rod of Starlight +2 x1
Sunblade Longsword +2 x1
Marauder's Inix Leather Armor +3 x1
Lesser Badge of the Berserker +2 x1
Bracers of Mighty Striking (heroic tier) x1
Gauntlets of Arcane Might x1
====== End ======
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