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2 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 1:27PM #1
super_toast88
Date Joined: Aug 5, 2011
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I know some gods died, were incorporated into other pantheons, turned out to be known gods in disguise, so on and so forth. So, did Vhaeraun die, or is he still around. Cause I don't think Lolth would suffer his impertinance for too much longer.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 1:52PM #2
sfdragon
Date Joined: May 8, 2004
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   who is this Vhaerun you speak of.
where are his masked assassins
Who is this Eilistraee  
where are the nude dancers on the night above
who is this  Selvetarm
where are the spiders that wait

who is Kiaransalee
where are her undead toys 
who is thisGhaunadaur
 where is his slimelords
There is only Loth
we are her meat


Where is this Vhaerun, for his followers are gone  and take by a nudist
Where is this Eilistraee, for her nude dancers are all gone and the music has stopped.
Where is this Selventarm, his driders now only venerate the queen of spiders  
  Where is Kiaransalee, for her children are all brainwashed to forget her   
Where Ghaunadaur for his slimes have left the demonweb pits


we know only Lolth for we are her meat

there is no other...


those who worship others are heretics.

there is no other


and you shall know lolth and she'll laugh while you scream as you become one of her own            




there are only spiders


and spiders are all    
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 2:30PM #3
crzyhawk
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2010
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As you may have gathered from the above, Vhaeraun is dead.  Lolth is the only one still alive and kicking.  To be fair, Ghaunadar may still be alive, but is trapped in a plane of mazes IIRC, and is not really a player.

I'm not sure Eilistraee is completely dead (Cavatina's head was also severed by the Crescent Blade and her soul was not destroyed...so it's possible that Eilistraee can be bought back) but that's just speculation on my part.  Before bringing back any dead drow dieties though, they need to bring back Mystra (or Mistryl!).  No goddess of magic is just /wrong/.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 2:39PM #4
sfdragon
Date Joined: May 8, 2004
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actually, the part where Eilistraee admited defeat it said she feigned death.

so she might not be dead, but may be an archfey.


and as for GHaunadar, that was an avatar of his that was trapped in a maze spell..... but one of the other drow cities is filled with slime too...   
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 05, 2011 - 4:09PM #5
super_toast88
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Gotcha, thanks!
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2011 - 4:51AM #6
Matt_James
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The recently announced Menzoberranzan sourcebook that is coming out next summer should have more info for your use as well.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 06, 2011 - 7:48AM #7
crzyhawk
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and as a drow loving fanboi, I can't wait. Tthere are going to be a lot of people disappointed because they think drow are overplayed, but I am not one of them so...way to go Wizards

Using the Neverwinter Campaign Guide as an indicator of how they want to do things, Menzoberranzan really makes a lot of sense.  There's a tie in to NWCG via House Xorlarrin poking around Gauntlegrym, and Bregan D'aerthe, and Menzoberranzan sounds about right for paragon level challenges.

Whereas the NWCG has several factions vying for control, Menzoberranzan has several houses doing the same thing, not to mention groups like the Jaezred Chaulssin trying to invoke their own brand of change.

Since they added the shadowfell reflection of neverwinter in the NWCG, I'm curious to see if there is a feydark reflection of Menzoberranzan included in the new book.
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 08, 2011 - 7:32AM #8
eriksdb
Date Joined: Jul 12, 2009
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To answer the OP, Vhaeraun and Eilistraee merged as "The Masked Lady," who (ostensibly) perished in the Lady Pentitent trilogy as part of a bit to break the curse of Wedonai (sp?) and "redeem" at least part of the drow race (which did indeed happen). We have very little information about them in the time since, but . . .

Dec 6, 2011 -- 4:51AM, Matt_James wrote:

The recently announced Menzoberranzan sourcebook that is coming out next summer should have more info for your use as well.


That seems like a reasonable speculation, doesn't it Mr. James?

I think you guys will be pleased. I know I am.

Cheers

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2 years ago  ::  Dec 08, 2011 - 9:30AM #9
sfdragon
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what does ostensibly mean?
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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2 years ago  ::  Dec 08, 2011 - 7:45PM #10
crzyhawk
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Well, Eilistraee had her head chopped off with the crescent blade, which SHOULD have destroyed her soul.  However, the crescent blade had been broken, and somehow made whole.

What we DO know, is that Cavatina (the darksong knight who killed Selvatarm) also lost her head to the crescent blade, and we know that her soul was /not/ destroyed because it was seen at the end of Acendancy of the last being led into Arvandor.

Therefore, it stands to reason, if Cavatina's soul survived, it's quite possible that Eilistraee's did as well.  I imagine we'll find her reborn somehow as an exarch of Corellon, who is god of the Ssri-Tel-Quessir (name used to eliminate confusion between the redeemed dark elves and the now separate race of drow)
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