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1 year ago ::
Dec 07, 2011 - 1:53PM
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Jun 17, 2011
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Cobolo, if you were to (roughly) insert those aforementioned feats in the build... could you give me your opinion on where they should come in and which should be swapped out? Like a mock-list, if it's not too much trouble?
I'm a little new to this, haha.
Sure, I'll take a stab at it.
Heroic, Class ~ Warden/Fighter 1. Weapon Proficiency: Greatspear 2. Multiclass Warrior: Battle Awareness 4. Polearm Expertise (Unless you expect to charge a lot) 6. Sudden Roots 8. Hafted Defense 10. Swift Spear
Paragon, Paragon Path ~ Bloodwrath Guardian 11. Polearm Gamble, Retrain Sudden Roots to Polearm Momentum (anything you OP attack is getting proned at this point) 12. Improved Defenses 14. Armor Specialization (Hide) 16. Swaying Branches 18. Wildblood Speed 20. Resilient Focus/Improved Initaitive/Whatever, not keeping this one
Epic, Epic Destiny ~ Eternal Defender 21. Rapid Wild Defense (Retrain Armor Specialization: Hide into Second Skin) 22. Epic Recovery (Retrain Resilient Focus to Strength Through Challenge) 24. Primal Resurgence 26. Epic Fortitude 28. Epic Will 30. Epic Reflex Not sure how some of this will work out in practice, your standard tactic in paragon is likely going to be to mark as many enemies as you can and then shift away from them. If they follow you then you get an OP attack to slide and prone them. If they ignore your mark then you shift over to them and punish them, possibly negating the hit entirely with swaying branches.
Up Strength and Wisdom every level except level 14 do Strength and Constitution. Otherwise you don't qualify for Second Skin or Armor Spec (Hide).
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1 year ago ::
Dec 07, 2011 - 2:08PM
#22
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Jun 17, 2011
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For Epic Destinies, Unyielding Sentinel or Ceaseless Guardian would let you boost another stat so you could pump strength and wisdom every time. You wouldn't qualify for Armor Spec (Hide) in paragon, but you could pick up second skin at level 21 or later.
Edit: Totally missed that this doesn't give enough CON to get Epic Recovery. I'd just take Wary Fighter instead, but if you want to move two points of wisdom to constitution you can still get it. It will just cost you -1 AC and Will.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 07, 2011 - 3:49PM
#23
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Oct 12, 2010
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You're better off not having the Con mod to get the armor feats and just having more points in Wis.
As a Longtooth Shifter I'd suggest Str 18 | Con 13 | Dex 14 | Int 10/8 | Wis 16 | Cha 10/8. This gives you enough Con to get AS:H in Epic, and you can grab PM in Paragon. If you want PM in Heroic, drop the Con to 11 and bump Dex to 15. Take Born Under a Bad Sign / Auspiscious Birth to get HP tied to Str and you will be fine with a Con of 11/13.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 07, 2011 - 4:49PM
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Aug 13, 2011
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Danko, thank you for the Auspicious Birth hint. I can totally work that into his story, too. Cobolo, that list looks great! And very close to the original idea. I appreciate it!  One more question for you, though. How absolutely vital are the "Epic ___" Feats? I mean, I know as a Defender those defenses are pretty important... but I don't know, from a character/flavor perspective the feats are pretty bland and uninspired. Would it be a huge detriment in using something else?
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1 year ago ::
Dec 07, 2011 - 5:00PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 17, 2011
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Happy to help.
For a defender, pretty important to keep up with team monster. The math fix feats (improved defense, weapon expertise, epic will/fort/reflex) are all bland as rice cakes, but they outperform everything.
That said this warden's reflex is probably so low that he's going to get hit even with epic reflex, so if you really want one more epic feat thats the one to skip.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 07, 2011 - 8:35PM
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Aug 13, 2011
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Noted.
Thanks again, Cobolo. I'm pretty confident I can take this guy out for a spin now.
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