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2 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2011 - 9:42AM
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I've always been pretty loose when it comes to leveling PCs - rather than having them level up after killing some misc bad guys I will generally have it take place after a significant encounter. If that is a little sooner or later than their earned experience would otherwise indicate, so be it.
Even so, I try and keep track of things so I can remain fair.
I've come across a question and I'm wondering how other GMs handle it. Do you award experience for traps which are either never triggered or are bypassed through passive perception (thereby requiring no action on the PCs part)?
I have a map I'm working on, which has several paths through a small maze to a central location. On a couple of those paths there are traps and it's very possible that they will never be encountered by the PCs. They also have a Perception DC to detect that is low enough so that 2 of the 5 PCs (who are perception monsters) will simply spot them passively.
In either of these cases, have the PCs really earned the equivilant of defeating an equal level opponent?
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2 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2011 - 10:11AM
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Depends. If it's a case of "oh a trap, lets go around that square, no biggy" then the trap probably isn't worth any experience. If it's in the middle of combat and the characters have to carefully step around it, complicating their ability to fight the enemy, then I say they earned it, even if they didn't trigger it.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 03, 2011 - 2:02PM
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If the PCs encountered the traps and overcame them somehow - including detecting them and avoiding them - then they get the XP for doing so.
Traps that simply sit there and wait for PCs to blunder into them are rarely (if ever) a good adventure element, though.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 04, 2011 - 10:52AM
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If it's not a threat, it's not XP.
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