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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 7:09AM #21
raleel
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my guess is "substantially different in size or gross physical appearance from human". dwarves are remarkably short (although not so short they can't hit human levels), goliaths are very tall, halfings are small (I assume this leaves out gnomes and pixies). bugs have 4 arms.

my guess is that the qualification is soft and DM adjudicated. My guess is that if it can wear a cloak and a little foundation and pass as human, you are good. Tieflings can have tiny horns, thus pass the cloak test. my guess is that genasi would as well. dragonborn, no, as they have a snout.
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 7:25AM #22
TomPliss
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Nov 27, 2011 -- 11:58PM, ShakaUVM wrote:

Nov 27, 2011 -- 11:25PM, Zathris wrote:

PMC Sorcerer is strictly inferior to MC Fighter and being a Dragonborn.


You  obviously didn't see the "must look like a human" requirement, either...



Dragonborns just need to wear a hood

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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 7:40AM #23
SonsofNorthWind
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Dire Radiance Paladin/Warlock was posted recently in this forum.  You can run Mindbite Scorn and Crimson Fire at levels 2 and 4 to get top tier striker damage in Heroic, then retrain as needed later.

community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...

If someone else is already looking to run a Morninglord, you could probably also retool it with a Vryloka Baladin Son of Mercy and give up the tiefling epic tier nastiness for more damage and control in paragon through Mighty Challenge and World Serpent's Grasp.
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 8:00AM #24
Gunthar
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.. except that whole divine chatracter thing in the Dark Sun campaign, you mean. Tongue out
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 8:28AM #25
DevourerOfPancakes
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Nov 28, 2011 -- 4:54AM, rjsilverthorn wrote:

To be fair, I don't think that list of races was in the post originally. When I replied to Lord_Ventnor I was thinking that additional clarification on what 'looks human' would be helpful.
 



Well, it was certainly already posted when I read it. I specifically checked the OP to see if Tieflings were OK.

I dunno. It just annoys the heck out of me when I put effort into giving advice, and out of nowhere comes Shaka telling me off.

Nov 28, 2011 -- 8:00AM, Gunthar wrote:

.. except that whole divine chatracter thing in the Dark Sun campaign, you mean. Tongue out



Yar. And Morninglords outside FR. Could always try talking the DM into reflavouring the Paladin bit though. A lot of paladin tricks are arguably martial, either through arms mastery or an imposing/inspiring presence (similar to how Warlords do it). If some abilities can't be explained that way, flavour it arcane and call it "magic" (you're half warlock after all).

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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 8:36AM #26
Mithrus
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So is refluffing allowed? Why can't you pick a genasi and say the is a human but covered in elemental tattoos they've had since birth (or gained via some ritual)? Stormsoul genasi evocation mage going lightning/thunder probably has the best overall burst DPS IMO. Item of choice would be an accurate staff of ruin

Alternately (assuming refluffing is allowed), I've been playing around with a tiefling warlock/wizard hybrid build that's pretty fun (not MAX dps, but still very nice). Eldritch Blast is SO much better as an RBA than MM.
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 8:41AM #27
ShakaUVM
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Nov 28, 2011 -- 8:28AM, DevourerOfPancakes wrote:

I dunno. It just annoys the heck out of me when I put effort into giving advice, and out of nowhere comes Shaka telling me off.


Sorry. When I saw it, I only saw human or elf as being possibilities. I don't know if I'm misremembering it, or if the author edited it.

Please, carry on.

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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 9:40AM #28
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Githyanki hybrid wizard hell lock + blood Mage. So you've got hellish rebuke, a AOE and loads of damage. Burning hands is good here also. Armour of agathys anyone?
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 10:36AM #29
SonsofNorthWind
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Ah - bad miss on the Divine source.  That would be me focussing on the "The character can be any Arcane class or an Arcane hybrid with any other power source.  Also, the character has to be human or human looking." stipulations and not paying attention to the rest. 

Morninglord, I assume, is refluffable, just as WotC encourages us to use SK's outside of Dark Sun.  If you can't get to divine, though, that's an issue.

Here's a happy ending to it? 

community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...
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1 year ago  ::  Nov 28, 2011 - 11:27AM #30
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Nov 28, 2011 -- 7:25AM, TomPliss wrote:

Nov 27, 2011 -- 11:58PM, ShakaUVM wrote:

Nov 27, 2011 -- 11:25PM, Zathris wrote:

PMC Sorcerer is strictly inferior to MC Fighter and being a Dragonborn.


You  obviously didn't see the "must look like a human" requirement, either...



Dragonborns just need to wear a hood



My reply was as a counter-point to PMC suggestions, however, since I've been called out:
Revenant Dragonborn is Dex/Cha. Class: Sorcerer (Storm/Wild) or Hexblade (Fey/Gloom).
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/pa... and Until then, Doppleganger Mask and a Disguise Kit give you a +7 to Bluff to disguise.  Bluff being a Cha based Class skill, even your party won't know unless you tell them.

Optimal?  Nope. Better than PMC? Yup.

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