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2 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2011 - 4:55PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 14, 2006
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When playable races had stats other than +2 Dex, +2 Cha? I'm going to throw this out there: +2 Dex +2 Cha characters make great vampires, which will see no love any time soon. So....why out of the various races that have been released in the past 8 months or so, a fair amount have +2 dex and cha? Revenant, Pixie, Satyr, Shade, Vryloka, Hengeyokai....am i forgetting any?
I'm just saying.
Also....anyone else ever notice that most races from another plane of existence or with a tie to another plane have +2 int as a possible stat? Yet, only a small handful of races from the material plane have that (Humans get a choice and warforged can be made intelligent) as a possibility? It's almost like there's a conspiracy to inform us that if it's not from around here, their brains are better.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2011 - 4:59PM
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And your point is ... ?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2011 - 5:03PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 14, 2006
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For instances of that last part, Eladrin, Gnome, Pixie (feywild), Tieflings (part devil (Hell)), Shadar Kai, Shade (Shadowfell), Genasai (Elemental Chaos), Githyanki, Githzerai, Shardmind (Astral Sea). Notable Exceptions: Bladelings, Satyrs.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2011 - 5:03PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 14, 2006
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Just some things I've noticed. I'm not angry or complaining.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2011 - 11:44PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2009
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According to the online Compendium, there are 39 races (plus six sub-races). Humans only get a plus to one stat, so let's ignore them.
There are 15 possible combinations of two stats to get bonuses to (6 for the first stat, times 5 for the second stat, divided by 2 because we don't care which of the two chosen is "first"), and many of the remaining 38 races fit in two of those combinations. There are a total of 64 race-and-two-stat-bonuses combinations.
Currently there are six races out of the remaining 38 that get Dex/Cha as an option. There are also six that get Dex/Con, six that get Dex/Int, seven that get Int/Cha, and nine that get Str/Con.
The Feywild book will add the Pixie as another Dex/Cha race. But isn't there another race or two in there?
Here are the UNDER developed combos:
Con/Int - 1 race
Str/Int - 2
Str/Cha - 2
Str/Dex - 3
Str/Wis - 3
Int/Wis - 3
Wis/Cha - 3
The last of these probably deserves to be underdeveloped since the two stats boost the same NAD. Which is also true of Dex/Int (overdeveloped) and Str/Con (hugely overdeveloped).
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2 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2011 - 11:47PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 15, 2007
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You have Con/Int and Str/Int switched, I'm afraid. There are two Con/Int races (Genasi, Warforged) and one Str/Int race (Genasi again). Although it's funny, when the article that gave the pre-PHB 3 races an optional stat mod came out, I remember complaining about all the darned Dex/Wis races!
"You can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies." -The Doctor, Remembrance of the Daleks
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2 years ago ::
Oct 22, 2011 - 12:32AM
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Sep 26, 2001
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So....why out of the various races that have been released in the past 8 months or so, a fair amount have +2 dex and cha? Revenant, Pixie, Satyr, Shade, Vryloka, Hengeyokai....am i forgetting any?
DEX/CHA races make good Rogues, which are the 4e analogue to the old Theif. In AD&D, virtually every race had a 'U' under thief (unlimitted level advancement). So, they're just evoking the classic feel of the game by making non-humans good theives.
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