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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 7:43PM #201
Garthanos
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Zero decisions required in combat sure doesnt sound like an intelligent fighter sounds like a button masher in combat.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 7:46PM #202
The_Ubbergeek
Date Joined: Jan 28, 2004
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Oct 19, 2011 -- 7:40PM, kev777 wrote:

Oct 19, 2011 -- 2:53PM, MalakLightfoot wrote:


Kev:

Your "High Int / Low Str" Fighter from the previous edition would be better realized as a Warlord in 4E. It sounds like you played the character as if he were a 4E Warlord. Now there are mechanics that fit your vision. Bravo!




No because all of a sudden he would have a bunch of powers that I don't want.   All he had  before was a simple attack with his longsword and that's all he needed.    It just wouldn't be the same character.  He would be effective in combat and wouldn't have a reason to avoid it or even prepare for it.  What I mean is that the INT part of that character was role played not 'Power' played.    I had to force myself to realy think through the situations the DM put us in.   I couldn't just charge into to a group of Zhentilar warriors and expect to win.    In those games I played being effective in combat was far less important that what you did outside of combat.  


kev777...

I can understand the feeling and powers would not be the same, so...

But so.. you are fine with doing just attack, attack, attack, like a game of FFI - who, while fluffable to be enjoyable, are always the SAME?

Sorry, but I do not want to go back to those days.

And again, this logic fallacies to say you can not walk and chew gum - yes, you can have combat stuff and rping. Numbers cruching, and thespian stuff.

Also, do you need extensive rules out of combat? No. 

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 7:47PM #203
kev777
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Oct 19, 2011 -- 7:43PM, Garthanos wrote:

Zero decisions required in combat sure doesnt sound like an intelligent fighter sounds like a button masher in combat.




Again you're just focused on combat I'm not.   I don't see it that way.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 7:53PM #204
The_Ubbergeek
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Oct 19, 2011 -- 7:47PM, kev777 wrote:

Oct 19, 2011 -- 7:43PM, Garthanos wrote:

Zero decisions required in combat sure doesnt sound like an intelligent fighter sounds like a button masher in combat.




Again you're just focused on combat I'm not.   I don't see it that way.


No, you have felt for a certain White Wolfesque 'I'm a roleplayer, I'm a better gamer' mindset perhaps.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 8:16PM #205
Blanket_Thunder
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Well, it is generally decided, that when posting something on a single-language-speaking forum, you should have a pretty basic understanding of said language. If I posted on a French forum, I would try to do my best to learn said words, before posting on that forum. It is not a specific thing about "pleasing one culture".
"It's dangerous to go alone, Jerk-wads!" (Borderlands 2)

“All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade! Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man whose gonna burn your house down - with the lemons!” (Portal 2)


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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 8:26PM #206
The_Ubbergeek
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Oct 19, 2011 -- 8:16PM, Blanket_Thunder wrote:

Well, it is generally decided, that when posting something on a single-language-speaking forum, you should have a pretty basic understanding of said language. If I posted on a French forum, I would try to do my best to learn said words, before posting on that forum. It is not a specific thing about "pleasing one culture".


My english is actually better than many native speakers on the 'intrawebz', sadly or nicely.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 8:32PM #207
Blanket_Thunder
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2011
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Which, as a Southerner, in the USA, that makes me want to cry a little. That some of the most derpish people I know--now this is the "illiterate south", mind you--may actually be smarter than most people that speak english--gramatically, at the least... And that foreigners who learn this language are better than them...

BTW, an intraweb is a web using all HTTP nodes of a local, or communications network. For example, Brighthouse I-Comms.
"It's dangerous to go alone, Jerk-wads!" (Borderlands 2)

“All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade! Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man whose gonna burn your house down - with the lemons!” (Portal 2)


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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 8:32PM #208
Garthanos
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Oct 19, 2011 -- 8:26PM, The_Ubbergeek wrote:

My english is actually better than many native speakers on the 'intrawebz', sadly or nicely.




I think your english is great - a few dropped connecting words and a few phrases that dont flow totally smooth but over all great.  I am a stream of conciousness style native English speaker who may choose to use the language in more poetic ways than normal and probably quite terrible at times myself, particularly with regards to not useing punctuation and capitalisation.

Thank you for your posts on the forum. (I sent a friend request by the way)

Improvisation in 4e: Improv. Attacks(by wrecan) - Fave 4E Improvisations

The Non-combatant Adventurer

Reality is unrealistic - and even monkeys protest unfairness

Dynamic Reflavoring : The Fighter : The Wizard : The Swordmage
Creative Character Collection - Featuring:The Faerie Master - Snow White - Joxer - Ironman - Elric - Bloodwright

By virtue of being a player your characters are the protagonists in a heroic fantasy game even at level one

"You have to explicitly give non-casters permission to do awesome, where as with magic it is just assumed they can." -Garthanos

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 8:34PM #209
Blanket_Thunder
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I agree with him, as well. Your english is impeccable, save for a few dropped prepositions and other things... But, job well done.
"It's dangerous to go alone, Jerk-wads!" (Borderlands 2)

“All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade! Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man whose gonna burn your house down - with the lemons!” (Portal 2)


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2 years ago  ::  Oct 19, 2011 - 8:35PM #210
Garthanos
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Oct 19, 2011 -- 7:47PM, kev777 wrote:

Oct 19, 2011 -- 7:43PM, Garthanos wrote:

Zero decisions required in combat sure doesnt sound like an intelligent fighter sounds like a button masher in combat.




Again you're just focused on combat I'm not.   I don't see it that way.




No I am saying I dont stop roleplaying a character because its a fight scene... so I should have a fighting style which plays to the abilities of the character.

Improvisation in 4e: Improv. Attacks(by wrecan) - Fave 4E Improvisations

The Non-combatant Adventurer

Reality is unrealistic - and even monkeys protest unfairness

Dynamic Reflavoring : The Fighter : The Wizard : The Swordmage
Creative Character Collection - Featuring:The Faerie Master - Snow White - Joxer - Ironman - Elric - Bloodwright

By virtue of being a player your characters are the protagonists in a heroic fantasy game even at level one

"You have to explicitly give non-casters permission to do awesome, where as with magic it is just assumed they can." -Garthanos

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