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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 9:23PM
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(Cue REO Speedwagon) "Heard it from a friend who...heard it from a friend whohoo....heard it from another you been messin' around (with 5th edition)"
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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 10:35PM
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(Cue REO Speedwagon) "Heard it from a friend who...heard it from a friend whohoo....heard it from another you been messin' around (with 5th edition)"
Wait.. Speedwagon...
Someone here may know of Jojo's Bizarre Adventures. 
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2 years ago ::
Oct 17, 2011 - 11:51PM
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you want to think that doubters are closing their eyes, plugging their ears and singing "lalalala" but if you believe everything you read you are a far greater fool. think for yourself.
I've been saying 5e has been on the way before it was cool.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 12:00AM
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Not a reliable source. If it was in production, anyone who knows about it would be under NDA.
Information has been leaked about a number of WotC projects before release regardless of NDA in the past. Not a clue about this particular case, but if Weiss trusts the source of information, I'm rather inclined to believe her.
Indeed...
HAND OF KARSUS!  
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 12:03AM
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Not a reliable source. If it was in production, anyone who knows about it would be under NDA.
Information has been leaked about a number of WotC projects before release regardless of NDA in the past. Not a clue about this particular case, but if Weiss trusts the source of information, I'm rather inclined to believe her.
Indeed...
5E will be released when Kader will be back in Canada and Jean Charest will hold a public inquiry on the construction industry.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 12:15AM
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Ok! If you say so... 
HAND OF KARSUS!
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 6:36AM
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this is how they put out 4e, 3e and AD&D.
No, it isn't.
3e was put together in under 2 years, including playtesting, which is why it was so buggy. They began work on 3.5 within months after 3.0 was released, and released it after 3 years. 4e also had about 3 years of development, including playtesting. Three years is the norm.
AD&D was playtested by the local gaming groups of the writers. TSR was too small in the 1970's to have an actual process for development and playtesting. I'm not sure what process went into 2e, but development began in 1987, and it was released in 1989 -- 2 years.
If Monte Cook was hired to work on 5e, then I expect it will come out in three years: 2014, in time for the 40th anniversary of D&D, and will probably be announced at GenCon for release in time for the Christmas season, probably December 2014.
4e's first product was released in December 2007. 12/07 - 12/14, that makes 7 years.
3e's first product was released in August 2000. 08/00 - 12/07 is 7 years, 4 months.
2e's first product was released in August 1989. 08/89 - 05/98 is 8 years, 9 months.
1e's first product was released in June 1978. 06/78 - 11/88 is 10 years, 5 months.
1e and 2e each would have each lasted about seven years, if not for turmoil within TSR management. Gygax was ousted in 1985 (7 years into 1e), and prevented from issuing a new edition (his notes comprised a lot of what became Unearthed Arcana). Zeb Cook was told to turn his notes for 3e into what became the Player Option series in 1995 (only 6 years into 2e!).
So seven years seems about right for edition changes.
that was both informative and interesting. thanks.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 10:23AM
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And an unnamed friend of an unnamed friend does not count as a reliable source. Just try using it in an academic paper, or as a source for a newspaper story. After your teacher/editor stops laughing, you'll be told to get a real source.
Please don't assume, I'm not talking about hearsay rubbish (not to say she's wrong, I don't know), Margaret has nothing to do with my belief that 5th Ed is coming sooner than some would think.
Just my personal speculation.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 10:45AM
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Great! Arguing about the date is useless, because we can´t choose or change it. I have thinking a piece and now my opinion is 5th isn´t coming soon, but 4.5 ed. And I don´t talk about books but adaptation of videogames.
Think about it. Do you think D&D: Daggergale, a action-rpg, is a complete loyal adaptation of 4th system? And Newerwinter, by Cryptic? (I like Champions Online). 4th Ed has a lot of powers about moving (it´s my biggest and main complaint) but a action rpg needs other ideas.
If new D&D videogames have got rules of 4th ed.... the 5th ed would came too soon now... but if they have got pieces of 5th ed system...(It alreayd woud have just been playtested, by videogames).
After Eberron online and Newerwinter 2, with 3.5 system.. why wasn´t there so many videogames with rules of 4th? And if now is appearing.... the 5h ed. can´t be so soon...(but if futures videogames are 5th Ed).
* A second possibility is WotC isn´t creating a 5th D&D edition but a d20 Modern 2nd Ed. (I would like a d20 superheroes created by WotC).
(I ask you again. Do you think Birthrigth could be a perfect rpg + economic strategy videogame?)
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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2 years ago ::
Oct 18, 2011 - 2:17PM
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Great! Arguing about the date is useless, because we can´t choose or change it. I have thinking a piece and now my opinion is 5th isn´t coming soon, but 4.5 ed. And I don´t talk about books but adaptation of videogames.
Think about it. Do you think D&D: Daggergale, a action-rpg, is a complete loyal adaptation of 4th system? And Newerwinter, by Cryptic? (I like Champions Online). 4th Ed has a lot of powers about moving (it´s my biggest and main complaint) but a action rpg needs other ideas.
If new D&D videogames have got rules of 4th ed.... the 5th ed would came too soon now... but if they have got pieces of 5th ed system...(It alreayd woud have just been playtested, by videogames).
After Eberron online and Newerwinter 2, with 3.5 system.. why wasn´t there so many videogames with rules of 4th? And if now is appearing.... the 5h ed. can´t be so soon...(but if futures videogames are 5th Ed).
It's a good point. I'll bring to your attention that Neverwinter, a game nearly complete, by all accounts, just had its release date pushed back a year. And this is Cryptic: they're famous for being able to make an entire game in just a year. So what does that tell you?
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