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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 4:33PM
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So you suggest to multiclass my swordmage?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 4:49PM
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Hybrid, but yeah. Swordmage loses very little for doing so. Basically just the bottom half of its powers, which aren't that impressive to start with, and one feat to buy back Warding.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 4:55PM
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Jan 12, 2011
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So you suggest to multiclass my swordmage?
The Swordmage/Warlock combo requires being Hybrid. You take Eldritch Strike as your Warlock At-Will, then if a marked target triggers your MBA, you Eldritch Strike them and get to do Curse Damage to them. It makes ignoring your mark A Bad Idea.
If you are shying away from going as a hybrid, and are going to stay Assault Swordmage, I have to suggest Cloak of Translocation +3 as your level 14 item. Your at-will minor action Aegis of Assault marking ability counts as a teleportation ability, and so long as you mark each round, the cloak basically gives you a persistant untyped bonus of +2 to your AC+Reflex.
It's still pretty good as a hybrid Assault Swordmage/Whatever Warlock, but you can't guarantee you will be able to recast your mark each round as a hybrid.
Edit: I'm dumb. An Assault Swordmage/Warlock could take Ethereal Sidestep as their level 10 utility to be able to teleport in place of shifting to keep it triggered. Go with what feels right in this regard.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 5:05PM
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So you suggest to multiclass my swordmage?
The Swordmage/Warlock combo requires being Hybrid. You take Eldritch Strike as your Warlock At-Will, then if a marked target triggers your MBA, you Eldritch Strike them and get to do Curse Damage to them. It makes ignoring your mark A Bad Idea.
If you are shying away from going as a hybrid, and are going to stay Assault Swordmage, I have to suggest Cloak of Translocation +3 as your level 14 item. Your at-will minor action Aegis of Assault marking ability counts as a teleportation ability, and so long as you mark each round, the cloak basically gives you a persistant untyped bonus of +2 to your AC+Reflex.
It's still pretty good as a hybrid Assault Swordmage/Whatever Warlock, but you can't guarantee you will be able to recast your mark each round as a hybrid.
Edit: I'm dumb. An Assault Swordmage/Warlock could take Ethereal Sidestep as their level 10 utility to be able to teleport in place of shifting to keep it triggered. Go with what feels right in this regard.
RAW Cloak triggers when you use a power that has the teleport keyword, not when you teleport. So Assaults teleport actually doesn't trigger it, as you didn't use a power, but marking with Aegis does.
Weird, I know. But with Ethereal Sidestep he can trigger it as often as he wants.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 5:09PM
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RAW Cloak triggers when you use a power that has the teleport keyword, not when you teleport. So Assaults teleport actually doesn't trigger it, as you didn't use a power, but marking with Aegis does.
Sorry if I wasn't clear but that's what I meant. You doing your teleporty mark reprisal thing doesn't cause the cloak to trigger, the minor action to mark does.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 7:20PM
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+1 to hybrid Swordmage|Warlock. Warlock adds strong control support, decent damage, and it will make you more dangerous to ignore (since with Eldritch Strike you can trigger your warlock's curse damage every turn).
You can check out Darth Vader in my sig for an example SM|Lock. Even though Vader is focused on being a full-on defender, a lot of the choices will be similar for any good SM|Lock.
You lose some hp because the warlock half is a striker, but you have the potential to boost your defenses higher with Armor of Dark Majesty (+2 to defenses against cursed enemies), and Warding Curse (epic feat, +2 to defenses against cursed targets).
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2 years ago ::
Oct 11, 2011 - 9:03PM
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+1 to Swordmage|Warlock. Didn't one the new Expertise feats from Dragon 402 work for swordmages?
White Lotus Dueling Expertise. The rider is worthless; it's basically just an 11/21 scaling expertise for arcane powers and basic attacks.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 12, 2011 - 6:54AM
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Oct 11, 2011
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So I should change all my SM skills for lock skills ? Sorry, I never been multiclassed.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 12, 2011 - 7:30AM
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Poweres need to be essentially even. I'd keep Dimensional Vortex and Hypnotic Sowrdplay while grabbing the Warlock Encounter Power you like best for the other slot but pick 2-1 Warlock dailies. Utility powers are where I hate giving up one of the Swordmage ones but Ethereal Sidestep is worth it.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 12, 2011 - 3:00PM
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Following your suggestions (and reading Herid_Fel's handbook), we came up with this build : Jett - stormsoul genasi Swordmage/Malec-Keth Janissary
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Jett Crimsonstone, level 15
Genasi, Swordmage, Malec-Keth Janissary
Build: Assault Swordmage
Swordmage Aegis: Aegis of Assault
Devshirme Training: Gain Training in a skill
Elemental Manifestation: Stormsoul
Background: Aglarond (Aglarond Benefit)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 20, Dex 11, Int 24, Wis 12, Cha 9.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 18, Wis 11, Cha 8.
AC: 32 Fort: 28 Reflex: 30 Will: 25
HP: 119 Surges: 13 Surge Value: 29
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +19, History +19, Perception +16, Insight +15, Athletics +12
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +7, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +8, Endurance +14, Heal +8, Intimidate +6, Nature +10, Religion +14, Stealth +7, Streetwise +6, Thievery +7
FEATS
Level 1: White Lotus Dueling Expertise
Level 2: Intelligent Blademaster
Level 4: Escalating Assault
Level 6: Extended Teleportation
Level 8: Improved Defenses
Level 10: Aegis Accuracy
Level 11: Double Aegis
Level 12: Resounding Thunder
Level 14: Solid Sound
POWERS
Swordmage at-will 1: Booming Blade
Swordmage at-will 1: Sword Burst
Swordmage encounter 1: Sword of Sigils
Swordmage daily 1: Vanishing Blade
Swordmage utility 2: Host of Shields
Swordmage encounter 3: Dimensional Vortex
Swordmage daily 5: Dimensional Thunder
Swordmage utility 6: Armathor's Step
Swordmage encounter 7: Echoes of Sword Magic
Swordmage daily 9: Troll Rampage
Swordmage utility 10: Impenetrable Warding
Swordmage encounter 13: Hypnotic Swordplay (replaces Sword of Sigils)
Swordmage daily 15: Reaper's Challenge (replaces Troll Rampage)
ITEMS
Rubicant Blade Longsword +3, Cloak of Translocation +3, Flowform Drowmesh +3
In line with Mercador's original concept, I went for a character that teleports around, lots of multiattacks (thunder close bursts/blasts), and multiple marks as an incentive to attack him. Other than that, I chose feat support for his Aegis of Assault. I didn't go with Dimensional Vortex because I didn't want to "waste" an interrupt which could be used for Aegis of Assault's punitive MBA. The end result is a reasonably accurate fighter by my party's (low) standards. He will most likely deal more damage than all of the other PCs save, perhaps, the rogue  What do you guys think? Thanks for the help! edit : I'm an idiot.
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