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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 9:18PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2011
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====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
level 30
Dragonborn, Sorcerer, Inner Dragon, Avatar of Io
Build: Dragon Sorcerer
Spell Source: Dragon Magic
Dragon Soul: Dragon Soul Lightning
Arcane Implement Proficiency: Arcane Implement Proficiency (Rod)
Dragonborn Racial Power: Dragon Breath
Dragon Breath Key Ability: Dragon Breath Strength
Dragon Breath Damage Type: Dragon Breath Lightning
Powerful Breath: Powerful Breath Strength
Background: Born Under a Bad Sign (Born Under a Bad Sign Benefit)
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 28, Con 13, Dex 15, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 28.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 11, Dex 13, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 16.
AC: 44 Fort: 43 Reflex: 38 Will: 46
HP: 185 Surges: 7 Surge Value: 47
TRAINED SKILLS
Arcana +25, Diplomacy +29, Athletics +29, Intimidate +31, Streetwise +29
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +17, Bluff +24, Dungeoneering +15, Endurance +16, Heal +15, History +18, Insight +15, Nature +15, Perception +15, Religion +16, Stealth +17, Thievery +17
FEATS
Level 1: Ancient Soul
Level 2: Nusemnee's Atonement
Level 4: Draconic Spellcaster
Level 6: Daunting Breath
Level 8: Cyclone Warrior
Level 10: Dragonclaw Mark
Level 11: War Wizardry
Level 12: Thundering Breath
Level 14: Resounding Thunder
Level 16: Hurl Breath
Level 18: Draconic Arrogance
Level 20: Arcane Implement Proficiency
Level 21: Powerful Breath
Level 22: Sorcerous Flux
Level 24: Trusted Spellcasting
Level 26: Unarmored Agility
Level 28: Concussive Breath
Level 30: Improved Defenses
POWERS
Sorcerer at-will 1: Storm Walk
Sorcerer at-will 1: Blazing Starfall
Sorcerer encounter 1: Explosive Pyre
Sorcerer daily 1: Dazzling Ray
Sorcerer utility 2: Dragonflame Mantle
Sorcerer encounter 3: Flame Spiral
Sorcerer daily 5: Thunder Leap
Sorcerer utility 6: Sudden Scales
Sorcerer encounter 7: Spark Form
Sorcerer daily 9: Adamantine Echo
Sorcerer utility 10: Repelling Shield
Sorcerer encounter 13: Thunder Breath (replaces Explosive Pyre)
Sorcerer daily 15: Lightning Daggers (replaces Dazzling Ray)
Sorcerer utility 16: Draconic Majesty
Sorcerer encounter 17: Thunder Summons (replaces Spark Form)
Sorcerer daily 19: Aspect of the Dragon (replaces Thunder Leap)
Sorcerer utility 22: Platinum Scales
Sorcerer encounter 23: Sun and Stars (replaces Thunder Summons)
Sorcerer daily 25: Cloak of Winter Storm (replaces Aspect of the Dragon)
Sorcerer encounter 27: Thunder Pulse (replaces Thunder Breath)
Sorcerer daily 29: Cloak of Winter Storm (replaces Cloak of Winter Storm)
ITEMS
Arkhosian Scepter +6, Ring of the Dragonborn Emperor (paragon tier), Ring of the Radiant Storm (paragon tier), Queen's Staff +6, Wyrmtouched Amulet +6, Crown of the Brilliant Sun (paragon tier), Sash of Regeneration (epic tier), Trollhide Bracers (epic tier), Great Hero's Gauntlets (epic tier), Mummified Hand (epic tier), Fey Warrior's Boots (epic tier), Robe of the Archfiend Wyrmsilk Armor +6, Rod of the Dragonborn +6
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Any help with this would be fantastic, I recognize AIP is out of place, but besides that, I'm having trouble with the feats. The power list is not final, since its a work in progress.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 9:38PM
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Only thing out of place about AIP is that you're not using a Rod of the Dragonborn to make all your spells Lighthing+Thunder and taking Echoes of Thunder and Oncoming Storm. Daunting Breath is a bad idea, this build is suicidal, which rules out Dragonclaw Mark as well. Replace with the above feats. Thundering Breath should be taken asap. Concussive Breath is... well, Nusemee's doesn't transfer conditions and dazing your allies is bad. I don't particularly like Hurl Breath either, but YMMV. It'd allow either earlier defensive feats or DIS (DIS is a good pick).
I'd switch the PP to Ninefold. Also Spark Slippers still add to the set bonus and are very much worth it. Only item that doesn't really fit is Queen's Staff.
For powers, attack powers at any rate, you can ask "Does it push? Does it prone? Does it do it to more targets then my current powers?" Getting 3x Str Mod is pretty slick.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 9:51PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2011
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Is ninefold for the ability to use sorcerous flux?
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 9:55PM
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Is ninefold for the ability to use sorcerous flux?
That, and I just think it is a stronger PP in general for this build. Honorable Blade is also worth a mention, because you can use SoR MH and still benefit from all the Lightning+Thunder feats while getting an item bonus on your normal powers (there is no point in AIPing Rod though, because all it gets you is the DIS bonus, it basically frees up two feats since DIS is pointless and you don't need AIP Rod). Though if you find a way to draw and stow as a free action you can switch to the Rod as needed (expensive though) and still take DIS (and if you can really afford all that, you can maintain the +1 to damage by using Queen's Staff off-hand).
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 10:05PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2011
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FEATS Level 1: Ancient Soul Level 2: Nusemnee's Atonement Level 4: Draconic Spellcaster Level 6: Arcane Implement Proficiency Level 8: Cyclone Warrior Level 10: Dual Implement Spellcaster Level 11: War Wizardry Level 12: Thundering Breath Level 14: Resounding Thunder Level 16: Draconic Arrogance Level 18: Oncoming Storm Level 20: Echoes of Thunder Level 21: Powerful Breath Level 22: Sorcerous Flux Level 24: Trusted Spellcasting Level 26: Unarmored Agility Level 28: Concussive Breath Level 30: Improved Defenses ITEMS Arkhosian Scepter +6, Ring of the Dragonborn Emperor (paragon tier), Ring of the Radiant Storm (paragon tier), Rod of the Dragonborn +6, Wyrmtouched Amulet +6, Crown of the Brilliant Sun (paragon tier), Sash of Regeneration (epic tier), Trollhide Bracers (epic tier), Great Hero's Gauntlets (epic tier), Mummified Hand (epic tier), Spark Slippers (paragon tier), Robe of the Archfiend Wyrmsilk Armor +6, ====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ====== How does this look? The defense feats feel really late...
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 10:49PM
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Push DiS to 20 and Echoes to 30, drop a dex, raise a con for +1 surge in heroic/epic, but -1 init and ref in paragon. Since the build doesn't really pick up until Paragon (+Enh to Hit and Damage, +Enh to Damage, and now you halve the damage from Nusemnee's) you can probably delay Draconic Spellcaster to Paragon as well.
If you want MORE defenses (like Superior Will, Fort, and Ref in Epic) You're going to have to decide what gives you the least benefit. DiS adds +6 to your Implement powers, Echoes of Thunder adds +3 to all of your powers.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 11:09PM
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Assuming you're using Trusted Spellcasting on DB, the benefit is pretty minor. You're rocking +39/42 to hit and with being able to switch around rolls..... well, the benefit won't see much play.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 03, 2011 - 8:43AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2011
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Updated build
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
level 30
Dragonborn, Sorcerer, Ninefold Master, Avatar of Io
Build: Dragon Sorcerer
Spell Source: Dragon Magic
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 28, Con 14, Dex 14, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 28.
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 12, Dex 12, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 16.
AC: 44 Fort: 43 Reflex: 36 Will: 46
HP: 185 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 48
FEATS
Level 1: Ancient Soul
Level 2: Nusemnee's Atonement
Level 4: Draconic Spellcaster
Level 6: Arcane Implement Proficiency
Level 8: Cyclone Warrior
Level 10: Unarmored Agility
Level 11: War Wizardry
Level 12: Thundering Breath
Level 14: Resounding Thunder
Level 16: Draconic Arrogance
Level 18: Improved Defenses
Level 20: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 21: Powerful Breath
Level 22: Sorcerous Flux
Level 24: Superior Will (Or Epic Reflex/Fort/Will)
Level 26: Echoes of Thunder
Level 28: Concussive Breath (Or Epic Reflex/Fort/Will)
Level 30: Oncoming Storm
ITEMS
Arkhosian Scepter +6, Ring of the Dragonborn Emperor (paragon tier), Ring of the Radiant Storm (paragon tier), Wyrmtouched Amulet +6, Crown of the Brilliant Sun (paragon tier), Sash of Regeneration (epic tier), Great Hero's Gauntlets (epic tier), Mummified Hand (epic tier), Robe of the Archfiend Wyrmsilk Armor +6, Rod of the Dragonborn +6, Spark Slippers (paragon tier), Bracelet of the Radiant Storm (paragon tier), Eberron Shard of Lightning (epic tier)
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Crown of brilliant sun merely gives me +1 damage. Debating switching Circlet of Arkhosia for it, allowing me to take some of the Epic Defenses feats. Is this looking solid?
For themes,
Order adept gives me +1 to will (but its a power bonus), and +4 to arcana, and perhaps a wizard utility
Devil's Pawn gives me a great encounter power and resist 10 fire
I'm not sure which works better for the barfcheeze build
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2 years ago ::
Oct 03, 2011 - 8:50AM
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Looking very solid. Circlet+Epic Ref would probably be a better rounding out of your defenses.
I like Devil's Pawn I think. I never played a Sorc when themes were available, though Wizard utilities are pretty good.... mmmm, how would those apply to Sorcs....
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2 years ago ::
Oct 03, 2011 - 8:59AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2011
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The level 10 interuppt that allows for +4AC/Reflex and pushes one is solid, as it allows you to do Str mod damage as well. But I'm not sure that its better than Maiden's Awakening and I already have enough Immediates to kill a cow or two.
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