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2 years ago ::
Sep 29, 2011 - 9:22PM
#11
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Date Joined:
Jan 11, 2007
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I like the Dark Sun Setting and run a game. WotC is producing little adventure material for all it's settings, not just Dark Sun (compared to Patherfinder). Dark Sun is a dying world, so if WotC material dies away I'll just convert other 4e adventures to fit.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 29, 2011 - 10:46PM
#12
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Every 4e conversion is a stillborn project. 4e is not D&D at all, and any attempt to use this (maybe usable for smth. else) system with traditional D&D settings fails automatically. DS is not an exception.
Obvious troll is obvious.
At any rate, Dark Sun 4e isn't exactly unsupported. There have been several "Eye on Dark Sun" Dungeon and Dragon articles that have come out since the books were released.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 30, 2011 - 4:45AM
#13
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Date Joined:
Apr 22, 2007
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Dark Sun was actually supported better than the other two settings at first. The fact that there are still articles in Dungeon and Dragon sometimes is great. You have to buy that, though. That's the same treatment all the other settings have gotten.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 30, 2011 - 2:28PM
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so far i'm pretty happy about the support WOTC has had for DS,
like mentioned above there have been 25+ articles and it looks like more to come
as for paying for DDI again like it was said above for less than $10 you can get a 1 month subscribtion and download them (thats less that any book they've put out)
as for a "Athas.org for 4th ed" there's the forum wiki option and there are several groups dedicated to Dark sun
take a look around and join up and help out!
its easy to complain why not DO SOMETHING ?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 30, 2011 - 3:23PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 11, 2007
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Dark Sun was actually supported better than the other two settings at first. The fact that there are still articles in Dungeon and Dragon sometimes is great. You have to buy that, though. That's the same treatment all the other settings have gotten.
Very true. DDI puts out about 2-4 adventures each month and consistant additional supporting material for a range of settings.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 01, 2011 - 2:05PM
#16
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Date Joined:
Aug 28, 2007
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Dark Sun is just as supported as Forgotten Realms, and Eberron. My only major gripe is that I WISH WotC would put out monster tokens for the Creature Catalog (and MM3, for that matter) sold like dungeon tiles! Everyone I have ever talked to who owns or has seen the monster vault tokens loves them, and wishes they'd sell a set of 6 sheets a la dungeon tiles.
The only thing that I worry about is that some people might think Dark Sun is too "wierd". Like, those people (we know who they are) who think it isn't fantasy RPG if it isn't a LotR clone.
On the up side, both the DS campaign guide and Creature Catalog are pretty much sold out, and sadly out of print. (I think...) so there definately is intrest.
People WANT them...and WotC is famous for not re-releasing ANYTHING. You know, to make it a 'collectable'. Look at the minis line, and magic cards, and pretty much EVERYTHING they make and sell. I'm still upset I can't get that set of round tower dungeon tiles w/o spending like 50 bucks on e-bay.
Also, I personally like to make stuff up myself. The 4e DS stuff is an excellent springboard, there's tons of 3rd party stuff floating around, athas.org has cool pdf's (true, they're 3.5, but can still be read for fluff), and if you can spare the cash, the 2e stuff shows up on e-bay all the time. I've already made a globe of Athas (using an actual globe, and a projected slide of the map that came with the DSCG...some pencils, paint, and acrylic texture gel for 3d mountains, etc.)
Hint: there's no ice on its' poles, just forest. Also, the other hemisphere has an ocean. Prblem is, there's about 8-10,000 miles of sand and silt between known athas and this ocean. Epic level solution: DIRIGIBLES! Who knows what's there....maybe my PCs will find out in like 2 years, lol. (we're only level 4).
Peace.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 01, 2011 - 5:34PM
#17
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Date Joined:
Dec 20, 2007
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Dark Sun has received more online WotC support than either Forgotten Realms or Eberron
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2 years ago ::
Oct 02, 2011 - 6:54AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 22, 2007
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I think the real complaint here was that the books aren't being reprinted and that there aren't more books. I fully agree with that.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 03, 2011 - 2:59AM
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I'm dissapointed with the Dark Sun support in DDI. Thats why i've ended my subscription for the 2nd time and now i'm done. I will still continue to run my Dark Sun game and I'll do what i've always done. Run custom adventures or covert existing 4E (or old 2E) material to my needs.
I however do not feel that paying $10 is worth the DDI subscription. I understand that its a great value when you consider everything you get. But i'm not interested in anything else but Dark Sun. So to pay $10 a month to get the 2.5 page PDF article "House of the Mind" is not worth it to me. If there was a guaranteed Dark Sun adventure every issue it would be worth the $10.
I realize that its a business and that they need to make money, I just wish they could come up with a business plan that didn't cause them to be so fractured. It seems like to are spreading themselves too thin. Fewer worlds with more focus on those worlds would make me much happier.
Still i'm glad Dark Sun is at least one of those worlds and i'm happy that it's starting to get fiction book support.
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2 years ago ::
Oct 03, 2011 - 6:02PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 20, 2010
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as for a "Athas.org for 4th ed" there's the forum wiki option and there are several groups dedicated to Dark sun
take a look around and join up and help out!
its easy to complain why not DO SOMETHING ?
How do I access these?
Ant Farm
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