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Sep 28, 2011 -- 11:42AM, CrowScape wrote:

Sep 28, 2011 -- 11:40AM, Dane_McArdy wrote:

Sep 28, 2011 -- 10:56AM, CrowScape wrote:

Sep 28, 2011 -- 9:41AM, Qube wrote:

the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works says otherwise.

For Example, you can't darken all the pixels of a photo with 1% (or  something) to circumvent copyright, even though it's no longer the exact  list of pixels (or words for that matter) you copyrighted.

Which doesn't argue against what I wrote. Try an example where you are not trying to repackage a work (which is what I said copyright applies to) and pass it off as your own.

Or are you seriously trying to tell me someone can copyright the idea of "a war in space between an evil empire and a group of monarchy-loving rebels" instead of just a movie called "Star Wars?"

I don't think you understand. Or at least, that's the impression you give me.

George Lucas can copyright (And trademark) Star Wars, as the title of his work. He can NOT copyright the words Star or Wars. He can NOT copy right the idea of the story, like you describe it, "A war in space between an evil empire and group of monarchy-loving rebels."

You can make a villain in your story that wears all black, and is incased in life saving armor, because of things that happened in the past.

You can't use an image of Darth Vader to show people, nor can you lift text straight from the books to describe your black wearing life support armor villain. 

You can have knights that use a mysterious power, to move things, have visions, and to get in touch with their inner anger, but best not to call it the Force. 

Get the idea? You can use the exact same ideas, you just can't present them the same way George Lucas did.

Thank you for restating what I said. Why are you trying to argue against me?

I think I made it clear why i said what I said in my first sentence, so do I have to explain that?

Sep 28, 2011 -- 12:49PM, Herrozerro wrote:

with all this talk about copyright and stuff anyone else reminded of the Mojang/Bethesda Scrolls lawsuit?

Yup, that's the wonders of the incentive system for trademarks. When it comes to the TM, even the nicest, most laidback company will act like a d*ck, as the penalty for letting things slide is a loss of identity (see: Escalator).

Sep 28, 2011 -- 10:56AM, CrowScape wrote:

Or are you seriously trying to tell me someone can copyright the idea of "a war in space between an evil empire and a group of monarchy-loving rebels" instead of just a movie called "Star Wars?"

probably not.

you said " No, as you cannot copyright an  idea at all. All that you can copyright  is the particular series of  words that you use to express that idea."

That's simply not how copyright on intelectual property works.
By writing the particular series of words to express the idea, you copyright the idea.

Sep 28, 2011 -- 10:56AM, CrowScape wrote:

Or are you seriously trying to  tell me someone can copyright the idea of "a war in space between an  evil empire and a group of monarchy-loving rebels" instead of just a  movie called "Star Wars?"

In theory? If Lucas was the one who came up with the idea of interstellar war*, then yes, if you made an interstellar war movie it would be copyright infrigment.

_{*: in reality of course it doesn't apply to interstellar war as it's entirely possible to come up with that idea of your own without stealing it from Lucas.}