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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 9:05AM
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Sadly the 'kick the guy out of your game!' advice from Gygax circa. '74 is still the best advice. There's no cure for Jerkdom yet, even in this age of wonder and marvels 
D&D has thought me that fire usually solves all my problems.
that or bees.
or bees that sting you with fire.
Sharks are nice too. Just not when someone jumps over one.
"Censorship is telling a man he can’t have a steak just because a baby can’t chew it.”
~Mark Twain
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 9:17AM
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or bees that sting you with fire.
I found that "bees that are on fire" were severely lacking in the problem solving department, though.
Epic Dungeon Master Want to give your players a kingdom of their own? I made a 4e rule system to make it happen! Your Kingdom awaits!Update 5th Sep 2011: Added a sample kingdom, as well as sample of play.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 9:38AM
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Mar 22, 2005
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or bees that sting you with fire.
I found that "bees that are on fire" were severely lacking in the problem solving department, though.
it's cause you need to make those bees into robot bees or ghost bees then light them on fire.
3rd ed SRD, character sheets, errata & free modules4th ed test drive - modules, starter rules, premade characters and character builder & character sheet, errata Free maps and portraits, dice, printable graph paper, campaign managing website, image manipulation program + token maker & zone markers"All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR **** LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?! DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER! Make life RUE the day it thought it could give CAVE JOHNSON LEMONS! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I'M THE MAN WHO'S GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that's gonna BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!" -Cave Johnson, Portal 2
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 9:52AM
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Oct 11, 2010
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Or Zom-bees...
/leaving now
Wizards of the Coast can suck it.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 10:14AM
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or bees that sting you with fire.
I found that "bees that are on fire" were severely lacking in the problem solving department, though.
it's cause you need to make those bees into robot bees or ghost bees then light them on fire.
What about Vampire Robot Ninja Bees vs. Werewolf Cyborg Pirate Hornets?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 10:21AM
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At last, an article where I agree with almost all of what was said! 
The general thrust, which I agree with, seems to me not so much "the system can make bad players good" but rather "the system can support players in being good players". The odd thing is, as kendor has already mentioned in the comments to the article, this could just as well apply the the DM, the topic of last week's article. Parse the last paragraph like this:
"A good player DM can overcome any of these shortcomings, but a player DM’s energy is better served in portraying his character monsters, immersing in the environment designing the world, coming up with cunning plans exciting and engaging encounters, adventures and campaigns and so on, rather than working against or continually re-inventing the system. A good system encourages good play DMing."
...and I think most roleplayers would agree with the idea of this, too.
DMs are players too.. eh.
Yeah, I would say so - but that doesn't seem to me to be Mike Mearls' viewpoint.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 10:54AM
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I think 4e has taken great strides to support "good players" with info in the rule books and the Player's Strategy Guide, but, essentially, a "bad player" is going to be a "bad player" regardless of rules. The best thing to do, imo, is to talk to them, and if they don't change, kick them out of the group.
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 12:17PM
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Boring column; no thinly-veiled insight into the 5th edition. And what happened to those fancy polls?
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 12:53PM
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Boring column; no thinly-veiled insight into the 5th edition. And what happened to those fancy polls?
"This article didn't help me support my preconcieved notions! How boring!"
EVERY DAY IS HORRIBLE POST DAY ON THE D&D FORUMS.
Everything makes me ANGRY (ESPECIALLY you, reader)
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2 years ago ::
Sep 13, 2011 - 5:56PM
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or bees that sting you with fire.
I found that "bees that are on fire" were severely lacking in the problem solving department, though.
it's cause you need to make those bees into robot bees or ghost bees then light them on fire.
If it ain't giant, mutated, and radioactive then it ain't much!
That is not dead which may eternal lie
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