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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 9:22AM #41
Roofshadow
Date Joined: Feb 11, 2009
Posts: 246
No phantom chaussures? At-will concealment just requires a move. Come to think of it, shadow walk should be on there too.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 9:25AM #42
GelatinousOctahedron
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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Dex is secondary for watcher shamans as well.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 10:52AM #43
Azrael001
Date Joined: Dec 3, 2010
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Sep 7, 2011 -- 11:48AM, mellored wrote:

Cunning Sneak: (class feature) Can basically upgrade concealment to total concealment.



Just a minor correction, but a good guide.

The Drow House Insignia is also a handy item for stealthing. It's a daily, but combined with cunning sneak, it means that you can stealth anywhere you want for a whole encounter. It also gives a bonus to stealth based on it's enhancement bonus. (IIRC it's not an item bonus, so it can stack with the boots.)

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 12:35PM #44
awaken_D_M_golem
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2006
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Cheese Sunglasses ...




Hey, the link to the "Hidden" guide ... I don't have the time to wade through a 100+ page thread.

I'm assuming you linked it because it's legit, but how accurate or C.O. proof is it ??
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 12:42PM #45
LordOfWeasels
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2009
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Sep 9, 2011 -- 12:35PM, awaken_D_M_golem wrote:


Hey, the link to the "Hidden" guide ... I don't have the time to wade through a 100+ page thread.

I'm assuming you linked it because it's legit, but how accurate or C.O. proof is it ??
(not the cheese glasses ...)




I try to avoid including things that are actually *wrong* in my clarification guide.  As for CharOp?  CharOp is what you do once you understand the rules.  The Hidden thing is just to help people understand what the rules ARE.

Confused about Stealth?  Think "invisibility" means "take the mini off the board to make people guess?"  You need to check out The Rules Of Hidden Club.

Damage types and resistances:  A working house rule.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 1:02PM #46
kilpatds
Date Joined: Nov 23, 2003
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Not to be obvious, Mellored, but you're still missing Shadow Walk as a way to stay hidden (via class, or via feat for Warlock/Assassin combos).  And Phantom Chaussures (aka.  "Shadowwalk, the item")
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 1:40PM #47
Rich_The_Mad
Date Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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Don't know if someone else said this, but Thuranni Shadow Killer Dragonmark PP gives a +3 bonus to allies that AREN"T trained in stealth.

Much like the gnome feat, helps you avoid getting caught with the paladin clanking around in all his gear.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 3:46PM #48
psk20
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2007
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Persistent Tail.. hmm.

It isn't going to play nice with Shadow Walk. You'd stop being hidden at the end of each of your turns. Hmm.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 7:39PM #49
vanadium322
Date Joined: Feb 25, 2009
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Sep 7, 2011 -- 11:48AM, mellored wrote:


Way's to use it.




Sep 7, 2011 -- 11:49AM, mellored wrote:


Combo's and examples.




I hate to be "that guy" who corrects grammar, but when it's as visible as a title in a handbook, I can't help myself.  Apostrophes don't belong in plurals.  Those should be "ways" and "combos".

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 09, 2011 - 8:11PM #50
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Or we could all just 'start going crazy with apo'strophe's! It's the new black!

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